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I think you are looking at the past with a very large set of rose-tinted glasses. "Those days are over." Like the idealized 50s household of Leave it to Beave
by georgemcbay 13y ago
I think you are looking at the past with a very large set of rose-tinted glasses.
"Those days are over."
Like the idealized 50s household of Leave it to Beaver, those days never existed in the first place.
Ask 4 people the truth of what happened at any single event (let alone a long series of events) and you're likely to get 4 different accounts with at the very least very different points of view based on pre-existing bias and in many cases you will get fundamentally contradictory reports on basic facts. And all 4 people may even be absolutely sure of their own recollection and answering you as truthfully as they can. I'm not even getting into people being purposefully deceptive yet, you don't have to go nearly that far to slip off from the "truth" of things.
This was true well before the Internet existed. I would argue strongly that if anything the Internet has made sussing out the truth easier than it has ever been because you can use the massive amount of data on it to build consensus which on matters such as these is the best indicator we have as to how actually true any single person's report of events is.
Of course, this forces us to disregard outlier reports on both the positive and negative and only make conclusions when a consensus comes through, but it is fairly easy to do that (unless you are specifically emotionally attached to whatever it is the issue is).
Was Julie Ann Horvath harassed? I have no idea. But if 5 more people pop up and say they either witnessed or experienced the conditions she reported, I will certainly start to think she was. Is github a place where such harassment occurs? Again, I have no idea, certainly I can't make a decision one way or another based on how I feel about their products because there is no relation between the two things.
No matter what happened, if she was harassed I feel pretty comfortable with her "airing her dirty laundry" because of the specific context wherein she either purposefully or accidentally became somewhat of a public face regarding github being a good place for women engineers to work.