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"It makes me sad that a community that I'm part of and am passionate about has such negative behavior towards female members" I haven't seen any actual evidenc

"It makes me sad that a community that I'm part of and am passionate about has such negative behavior towards female members" I haven't seen any actual evidence of this in the link, so where are you getting it from?

NathanKP 13y ago
If you are interested in investigating there has been quite a few articles I've seen over the past few years on Hacker News and Reddit by female devs highlighting their experiences with how they have been treated by the dev community. Here are a few interesting articles to get you started: https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/6efcedf483bd https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/6efcedf483bd http://www.dailydot.com/business/hacker-news-justine-sexual-assault/ http://www.dailydot.com/business/hacker-news-justine-sexual-... http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/24/business/la-fi-tech-sexism-20131024 http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/24/business/la-fi-tech-...
- lettergram 13y ago
  We are talking about this case, not other cases. Each case is unique, you cannot assume sexism because you have seen it before.
  - NathanKP 13y ago
    First of all my original post was not focused on this case alone. I'm interested in the general pattern of the problem, of which this appears to be just one instance. I'm also interested in how it can be solved to increase the participation of females in the development community. But with regard to this specific case, since you say that you see no evidence at the original link, I would urge you to think about the fact that you evidently do not consider Julie's own words that she has been harassed to be evidence enough. Denying that there is an issue, or that the complaints of women like Julie are legitimate is part of the problem in the first place. Personally I see a consistent pattern of low participation of women in the industry, and regular instances of women complaining about sexist treatment and not being taken seriously. I therefore see no issue with taking Julie's words at face value because I see plenty of evidence that this is a legitimate problem.
    - camelite 13y ago
      >But with regard to this specific case, since you say that you see no evidence at the original link, I would urge you to think about the fact that you evidently do not consider Julie's own words that she has been harassed to be evidence enough. That's a bit rich, coming from rapist like you.
NoahTheDuke 13y ago
The aforementioned situation this article is about? Or is this a case of, "Well, this one obviously doesn't count. And that one doesn't count. So I've seen no actual evidence!"

NathanKP 13y ago

If you are interested in investigating there has been quite a few articles I've seen over the past few years on Hacker News and Reddit by female devs highlighting their experiences with how they have been treated by the dev community. Here are a few interesting articles to get you started: https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/6efcedf483bd https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/6efcedf483bd http://www.dailydot.com/business/hacker-news-justine-sexual-assault/ http://www.dailydot.com/business/hacker-news-justine-sexual-... http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/24/business/la-fi-tech-sexism-20131024 http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/24/business/la-fi-tech-...

lettergram 13y ago
We are talking about this case, not other cases. Each case is unique, you cannot assume sexism because you have seen it before.
- NathanKP 13y ago
  First of all my original post was not focused on this case alone. I'm interested in the general pattern of the problem, of which this appears to be just one instance. I'm also interested in how it can be solved to increase the participation of females in the development community. But with regard to this specific case, since you say that you see no evidence at the original link, I would urge you to think about the fact that you evidently do not consider Julie's own words that she has been harassed to be evidence enough. Denying that there is an issue, or that the complaints of women like Julie are legitimate is part of the problem in the first place. Personally I see a consistent pattern of low participation of women in the industry, and regular instances of women complaining about sexist treatment and not being taken seriously. I therefore see no issue with taking Julie's words at face value because I see plenty of evidence that this is a legitimate problem.
  - camelite 13y ago
    >But with regard to this specific case, since you say that you see no evidence at the original link, I would urge you to think about the fact that you evidently do not consider Julie's own words that she has been harassed to be evidence enough. That's a bit rich, coming from rapist like you.

NoahTheDuke 13y ago

The aforementioned situation this article is about? Or is this a case of, "Well, this one obviously doesn't count. And that one doesn't count. So I've seen no actual evidence!"