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It has to be asked, why did it take so long to get the additional data about the flight path? That data includes engine to satellite handshake, and military ra
by FatalLogic 13y ago
It has to be asked, why did it take so long to get the additional data about the flight path?
That data includes engine to satellite handshake, and military radar.
A lot of effort and time was wasted searching in the wrong place, even though the lack of wreckage beneath the last transponder location was an immediate sign that something might be unusual about this case. Meanwhile, possible evidence, such as floating wreckage in the Indian Ocean, was being lost.
- allochthon 13y agoIt's fascinating that you can find your iPhone using a Web site, but we're having such a hard time finding a plane (with lots of people with smartphones in their pockets turned off, or not). EDIT: just to clarify -- I'm thinking of how tracking the precise location of a plane at all times is a problem that it seems like we should have a handle on by now, although not necessarily using cell phone technology. (I wasn't thinking clearly about the cell phone signals in this context, though, as people have been correct to point out.)
- netllama 13y agoWhen's the last time anyone found their iPhone when it fell into the ocean, hundreds of miles from land?
- FatalLogic 13y agoIt's fascinating, but it leads one toward the unpleasant conclusion that the passengers could have already have been dead or unconscious before the plane flew back across Malaysia. Cellphone tower records should provide more evidence, because there are sure to be some phones that were not in airplane mode. Cellphones won't have enough power to connect more than about 50 km from the coast.
- jamesaguilar 13y agoDo you still get cell signal seven miles up? I remember one time accidentally leaving my phone not in airplane mode and I had no signal. YMMV.
- FatalLogic 13y agoThe quality of service may not be good, but text messaging will work, at least.
- jey 13y agoThere are very few cellphone towers in the middle of the ocean.
- FatalLogic 13y ago>There are very few cellphone towers in the middle of the ocean. And who said there are? If you read the story, you will see that the plane flew back across land. If you look at a map, you'll see there's no other way it could get to the Indian Ocean
- fallinghawks 13y agoWhich leads to the question of what the quality of cell service is like over/in that area. It may be land, but if there aren't any cell towers they may be SOL.
- FatalLogic 13y agoMalaysia and Thailand are relatively densely populated. Coverage is very heavy along both coasts of the countries, but much less complete inland. This is a coverage map for one of 4 Malaysian mobile operators. http://opensignal.com/networks/malaysia/my-celcom-coverage http://opensignal.com/networks/malaysia/my-celcom-coverage
- fallinghawks 13y agoThanks. I haven't been following this closely enough to have an idea of the (presumed) flight path and thought the land travelled over was Indonesia, which seems to be not so dense on that western island.
- goodcanadian 13y agoOr maybe, the passengers didn't yet know anything was wrong. They were only a small fraction into a very long overnight flight.
- LoganCale 13y agoIt's not that fascinating. Most of the world does not have cellular or radar coverage, and those are the places where you will have a hard time finding missing aircraft (and phones).
- jacalata 13y agoGood luck finding your iPhone if someone else has taken enough control of it to turn off the signal. Or just while flying over the middle of the ocean. (personally I do always turn my phone off on international flights because otherwise the battery will be dead after searching for signal for so long. I suspect there are far fewer phones left on for a long international flight.)
- carlosdp 13y agoI believe it was because the Malaysians are supposed to be running the investigation according to international treaty, but they were out of their league and couldn't coordinate anything. It looks like the US kinda came over two days ago and told them to stop screwing around and give them data. Also, I would not be surprised if they knew even more than we know now and are keeping it classified because of the possible terrorist element. If the plane is sitting around somewhere, you don't want them to know you know where it is first from watching it on CNN.
- Zancarius 13y agoAlso, I believe one of the Chinese state papers essentially called the Malaysians out as "backward" a couple days after the disappearance. Can't say I blame them as the majority of people on board were Chinese nationals.