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excuse my language, but any psychologist who uses a rorschach test is a fucking moron.

by nazgulnarsil 17y ago

lionhearted 17y ago
My gut reaction agrees with you Naz, but care to elaborate a little too? You've always got a pretty insightful perspective on things. Is there any validity to it? Too subjective? Gameable? It seems like junk to me, but there's got to be some value if it's been in use for almost 100 years, no?
- endtime 17y ago
  >but there's got to be some value if it's been in use for almost 100 years, no? You might want to rethink this statement.
- tokenadult 17y ago
  but there's got to be some value if it's been in use for almost 100 years, no? No. It's possible for an unvalidated test to have no value at all and yet be used for decades. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=078796056X/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=078796056X/
- nazgulnarsil 17y ago
  sure, there could possibly be some value to it if the administration of the test were done under more rigorous standards and the results compared against statistical correlations. I mean just common sense should tell you that the correct way to use it would be to have a distribution of common answers in front of you with correlation coefficients of the answers of people with various mental disorders. when you look at the history of the test this is not how it has been used. psychologists use patient answers as the starting point for their own interpretation of that patient's problems. it is psychoanalysis quackery all over again. the hypothesis are always descriptive and never prescriptive. if your hypothesis makes no predictions about behavior what is the point? it certainly isn't helping the patient. the whole point of labeling mental disorders is so that you can group people by what treatments actually help them, not so psychologists can get more research grants.

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excuse my language, but any psychologist who uses a rorschach test is a fucking moron.

by nazgulnarsil 17y ago

excuse my language, but any psychologist who uses a rorschach test is a fucking moron.

lionhearted 17y ago
My gut reaction agrees with you Naz, but care to elaborate a little too? You've always got a pretty insightful perspective on things. Is there any validity to it? Too subjective? Gameable? It seems like junk to me, but there's got to be some value if it's been in use for almost 100 years, no?
- endtime 17y ago
  >but there's got to be some value if it's been in use for almost 100 years, no? You might want to rethink this statement.
- tokenadult 17y ago
  but there's got to be some value if it's been in use for almost 100 years, no? No. It's possible for an unvalidated test to have no value at all and yet be used for decades. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=078796056X/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=078796056X/
- nazgulnarsil 17y ago
  sure, there could possibly be some value to it if the administration of the test were done under more rigorous standards and the results compared against statistical correlations. I mean just common sense should tell you that the correct way to use it would be to have a distribution of common answers in front of you with correlation coefficients of the answers of people with various mental disorders. when you look at the history of the test this is not how it has been used. psychologists use patient answers as the starting point for their own interpretation of that patient's problems. it is psychoanalysis quackery all over again. the hypothesis are always descriptive and never prescriptive. if your hypothesis makes no predictions about behavior what is the point? it certainly isn't helping the patient. the whole point of labeling mental disorders is so that you can group people by what treatments actually help them, not so psychologists can get more research grants.