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the software engineer is reviled for completely separate reasons outside the scope of this metaphor.

wmeredith 13y ago
Yeah, the ruthless monopolist systematically destroying other software engineers' companies/products/work is the part of Bill Gates that people don't care for. His work after M$oft has been awe inspiring. How he got from where we are to where he is now was kinda gross.
- leo_mck 13y ago
  Can you give us some examples of this "ruthless monopolist systematically destroying other software engineers' companies, products, work"? I am honestly asking, I would like to have this knowledge too.
  - wmeredith 13y ago
    "Embrace, extend, and extinguish",[1] also known as "Embrace, extend, and exterminate",[2] is a phrase that the U.S. Department of Justice found[3] was used internally by Microsoft[4] to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences to disadvantage its competitors." From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
- jameshart 13y ago
  I don't know what Microsoft did to you personally to make you so bitter, so I'll ignore your tone and address your comments in the spirit of the post you replied to - I think the point is, when looked at from the point of view of sound engineering principles, isn't that behavior somewhat logical? Having one common operating system is just exercising DRY, once-and-only-once architecture... and Microsoft's 'embrace/extend' approach to 'not-invented-here' reimplimentation? That's just pragmatic refusal to take third-party dependencies, which any engineer can probably relate to. You can object to how that behavior manifests itself in the market when taken to corporate scale, but at least consider the validity of the analogy.
  - wmeredith 13y ago
    So what if embrace/extend/extinguish logical? Eugenics is logical, but pretty gross when you start applying it to actual people.
- yuhong 13y ago
  My favorite is the MS OS/2 2.0 fiasco. Even now I have this wishlist for Satya: http://hal2020.com/2014/03/03/satya-shuffles-his-leadership/#comment-14856 http://hal2020.com/2014/03/03/satya-shuffles-his-leadership/...

Yeah, the ruthless monopolist systematically destroying other software engineers' companies/products/work is the part of Bill Gates that people don't care for. His work after M$oft has been awe inspiring. How he got from where we are to where he is now was kinda gross.

leo_mck 13y ago
Can you give us some examples of this "ruthless monopolist systematically destroying other software engineers' companies, products, work"? I am honestly asking, I would like to have this knowledge too.
- wmeredith 13y ago
  "Embrace, extend, and extinguish",[1] also known as "Embrace, extend, and exterminate",[2] is a phrase that the U.S. Department of Justice found[3] was used internally by Microsoft[4] to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences to disadvantage its competitors." From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
jameshart 13y ago
I don't know what Microsoft did to you personally to make you so bitter, so I'll ignore your tone and address your comments in the spirit of the post you replied to - I think the point is, when looked at from the point of view of sound engineering principles, isn't that behavior somewhat logical? Having one common operating system is just exercising DRY, once-and-only-once architecture... and Microsoft's 'embrace/extend' approach to 'not-invented-here' reimplimentation? That's just pragmatic refusal to take third-party dependencies, which any engineer can probably relate to. You can object to how that behavior manifests itself in the market when taken to corporate scale, but at least consider the validity of the analogy.
- wmeredith 13y ago
  So what if embrace/extend/extinguish logical? Eugenics is logical, but pretty gross when you start applying it to actual people.
yuhong 13y ago
My favorite is the MS OS/2 2.0 fiasco. Even now I have this wishlist for Satya: http://hal2020.com/2014/03/03/satya-shuffles-his-leadership/#comment-14856 http://hal2020.com/2014/03/03/satya-shuffles-his-leadership/...