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>Just goes to show that if you make the extra effort a lot of the time things will tend to work out. That makes no sense. His effort had no influence on how th

by mariorz 17y ago

>Just goes to show that if you make the extra effort a lot of the time things will tend to work out. That makes no sense. His effort had no influence on how things worked out.

scott_s 17y ago
Not true. The lawyers probably assumed he was prepared because he showed up, and he showed up carrying 100 pages of something. If you're sitting on the best possible hand in Texas Hold 'Em, and you get your opponent to fold without ever having to show your hand, your hand had influence on how things worked out. Presumably, you wouldn't have been as confident and aggressive with your hand if it wasn't good. You could, of course, bluff, but that's a risk.
- MaysonL 17y ago
  If you're sitting on the best possible hand in Texas Hold 'Em, and you get your opponent to fold without ever having to show your hand, your hand had influence on how things worked out. Presumably, you wouldn't have been as confident and aggressive with your hand if it wasn't good. If you have the best possible hand in Texas Hold'Em, and your opponent folds - he's the one who made the right move, not you.
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- mariorz 17y ago
  You're assuming things that could be very well not be true. Maybe he would have gotten the same offer if he just showed up empty handed and maybe your imaginary poker player would have folded regardless of your aggressiveness. Believing the effort didn't all go to waste sure feels better though.
  - scott_s 17y ago
    Would you show up empty handed? I wouldn't. In general, I don't consider preparation wasted effort even if I don't need to call up the actual materials I prepared. If I was better at signaling preparation without actually doing so (read: bluffing), maybe that wouldn't be the case.
  - caffeine 17y ago
    I go into situation A with expected reward 100. I receive reward 100. Yes - I might have gotten reward 100 by going into the situation with expected reward -12 .. but that would be a dumb thing to do. That is the nature of acting intelligently under uncertainty - you assume things that might not be true (but probably are).
apotheon 17y ago
It was insurance -- so it was still valuable, because the outcome wasn't known in advance.

by mariorz 17y ago

>Just goes to show that if you make the extra effort a lot of the time things will tend to work out. That makes no sense. His effort had no influence on how things worked out.

scott_s 17y ago

Not true. The lawyers probably assumed he was prepared because he showed up, and he showed up carrying 100 pages of something. If you're sitting on the best possible hand in Texas Hold 'Em, and you get your opponent to fold without ever having to show your hand, your hand had influence on how things worked out. Presumably, you wouldn't have been as confident and aggressive with your hand if it wasn't good. You could, of course, bluff, but that's a risk.

MaysonL 17y ago
If you're sitting on the best possible hand in Texas Hold 'Em, and you get your opponent to fold without ever having to show your hand, your hand had influence on how things worked out. Presumably, you wouldn't have been as confident and aggressive with your hand if it wasn't good. If you have the best possible hand in Texas Hold'Em, and your opponent folds - he's the one who made the right move, not you.
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mariorz 17y ago
You're assuming things that could be very well not be true. Maybe he would have gotten the same offer if he just showed up empty handed and maybe your imaginary poker player would have folded regardless of your aggressiveness. Believing the effort didn't all go to waste sure feels better though.
- scott_s 17y ago
  Would you show up empty handed? I wouldn't. In general, I don't consider preparation wasted effort even if I don't need to call up the actual materials I prepared. If I was better at signaling preparation without actually doing so (read: bluffing), maybe that wouldn't be the case.
- caffeine 17y ago
  I go into situation A with expected reward 100. I receive reward 100. Yes - I might have gotten reward 100 by going into the situation with expected reward -12 .. but that would be a dumb thing to do. That is the nature of acting intelligently under uncertainty - you assume things that might not be true (but probably are).

apotheon 17y ago

It was insurance -- so it was still valuable, because the outcome wasn't known in advance.