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I love my trackpad. You don't know what you're talking about. This is just another opportunity for you to shit post Apple.

by alayne 13y ago

Gracana 13y ago
I have one and love it as well. A giant modern trackpad in all its gesture-interface glory is a pretty awesome experience. I still like to use a mouse for precise tasks, but for web browsing, documentation reading, and general use.. it really can't be beaten.
- epsylon 13y ago
  What does it do that a mouse can't?
  - wtallis 13y ago
    Multitouch gestures are like keyboard shortcuts that you can activate without having to take your hand off the mouse. An expanded set of gestures such as provided by jitouch is extremely powerful.
    - CatMtKing 13y ago
      There is software[1] available for mouse gestures, although it appears that it's third party and hasn't been updated in some time. Firefox has some very nice add-ons that do mouse gestures as well. For X11, there's Easystroke. [1] http://briankendall.net/xGestures/ http://briankendall.net/xGestures/
      - epsylon 13y ago
        The "all-in-one gestures" Firefox add-on is the #1 reason why I use it as my main browser. Chrome doesn't have any decent gesture add-on (they even removed things like scrolling through tabs with the mouse wheel...). I've looked at the gestures documented by Apple on their site and I didn't see anything that couldn't possibly be done better with a mouse and a mouse wheel (and decent software).
wtallis 13y ago
Apple's defaults for cursor speed have always been really slow, which is sad because their trackpads are some of the few that are precise and accurate enough to work well with high sensitivity settings.
jmreid 13y ago
Ya, I basically need to use my Magic Mouse while my MBP is plugged into an external monitor and I'm not using the trackpad. Not having easy access to gestures slows me way down while working. If I want to play a game in Bootcamp, I just use a standard two button mouse.
archagon 13y ago
Nthed. It's not great for all use cases, and it feels a bit slow when you switch to it, but after a few minutes you'll be going almost as fast as with a normal mouse, but with much better ergonomics and with full access to gestures and inertial scrolling.
nitrogen 13y ago
Try watching an experienced multi-button mouse user. They don't have to reposition their hand three times to cross the screen, or wait 300ms between every action for the gesture recognition algorithms to time out. Watching my coworkers pause all the time with their magic touchpads was very jarring for someone used to a more seamless flow of thought into action with a mouse. They probably don't even realize they are pausing, rather just subconsciously trained to avoid gestural misdetection by working more slowly.
- kalleboo 13y ago
  And an experience trackpad user will have a ton of custom gestures set up, so half the time they don't even have to move the cursor around or resort to the keyboard.

I love my trackpad. You don't know what you're talking about. This is just another opportunity for you to shit post Apple.

by alayne 13y ago

I love my trackpad. You don't know what you're talking about. This is just another opportunity for you to shit post Apple.

Gracana 13y ago

I have one and love it as well. A giant modern trackpad in all its gesture-interface glory is a pretty awesome experience. I still like to use a mouse for precise tasks, but for web browsing, documentation reading, and general use.. it really can't be beaten.

epsylon 13y ago
What does it do that a mouse can't?
- wtallis 13y ago
  Multitouch gestures are like keyboard shortcuts that you can activate without having to take your hand off the mouse. An expanded set of gestures such as provided by jitouch is extremely powerful.
  - CatMtKing 13y ago
    There is software[1] available for mouse gestures, although it appears that it's third party and hasn't been updated in some time. Firefox has some very nice add-ons that do mouse gestures as well. For X11, there's Easystroke. [1] http://briankendall.net/xGestures/ http://briankendall.net/xGestures/
    - epsylon 13y ago
      The "all-in-one gestures" Firefox add-on is the #1 reason why I use it as my main browser. Chrome doesn't have any decent gesture add-on (they even removed things like scrolling through tabs with the mouse wheel...). I've looked at the gestures documented by Apple on their site and I didn't see anything that couldn't possibly be done better with a mouse and a mouse wheel (and decent software).

wtallis 13y ago

Apple's defaults for cursor speed have always been really slow, which is sad because their trackpads are some of the few that are precise and accurate enough to work well with high sensitivity settings.

jmreid 13y ago

Ya, I basically need to use my Magic Mouse while my MBP is plugged into an external monitor and I'm not using the trackpad. Not having easy access to gestures slows me way down while working. If I want to play a game in Bootcamp, I just use a standard two button mouse.

archagon 13y ago

Nthed. It's not great for all use cases, and it feels a bit slow when you switch to it, but after a few minutes you'll be going almost as fast as with a normal mouse, but with much better ergonomics and with full access to gestures and inertial scrolling.

nitrogen 13y ago

Try watching an experienced multi-button mouse user. They don't have to reposition their hand three times to cross the screen, or wait 300ms between every action for the gesture recognition algorithms to time out. Watching my coworkers pause all the time with their magic touchpads was very jarring for someone used to a more seamless flow of thought into action with a mouse. They probably don't even realize they are pausing, rather just subconsciously trained to avoid gestural misdetection by working more slowly.

kalleboo 13y ago
And an experience trackpad user will have a ton of custom gestures set up, so half the time they don't even have to move the cursor around or resort to the keyboard.