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Apple mice are comically frustrating to use. I'd rather carry around a mouse of my own than use one of those pieces of crap. Edit: even more funny is the "Magi

Apple mice are comically frustrating to use. I'd rather carry around a mouse of my own than use one of those pieces of crap. Edit: even more funny is the "Magic" Trackpad. Watching people mouse around on big desktop monitors at the speed of molasses with one of those always cracks me up. The only "magic" in it is that it makes any mouse-intensive work take twice as long to complete.

adyus 13y ago
I'm not sure how that trackpad was set, but I can jump across my MBP 15" diagonal with less than 2" of finger movement (more of a flick, really). After a few weeks of using it, the trackpad and its gestures have become second nature and have made me more productive by effectively disappearing into the background. It doesn't feel like there's an interface between me and the cursor anymore. Of course, YMMV.
snowwrestler 13y ago
I can get to all four corners of my 27" monitor with my Apple trackpad, because the track speed varies with velocity. Flicking my finger 1" on the track surface moves the mouse a lot farther than slowly moving the same finger the same 1". Track pads also allow gestures which greatly speed up app navigation and multitasking. Most importantly, all my wrist problems went away when I got a trackpad because it's a more relaxed position for my hand, it requires little effort to use, and it works the extension muscles of my fingers.
- saurik 13y ago
  It is fairly recent that Apple made the acceleration curves usable by default: classically Apple's cursors did not do this, and some people would seriously install Microsoft mouse drivers on their Macs specifically to get this acceleration behavior. It is highly likely that this person is talking about the situation from the last time he cared to evaluate Apple products, maybe five years ago (which frankly, I think is entirely fair for this thread's context).
  - CatMtKing 13y ago
    I hate that macs have the mouse acceleration cranked up by default. Every time I have to show a coworker how to do something on his computer, I have to stifle the urge to throw his mouse across the room.
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alayne 13y ago
I love my trackpad. You don't know what you're talking about. This is just another opportunity for you to shit post Apple.
- Gracana 13y ago
  I have one and love it as well. A giant modern trackpad in all its gesture-interface glory is a pretty awesome experience. I still like to use a mouse for precise tasks, but for web browsing, documentation reading, and general use.. it really can't be beaten.
  - epsylon 13y ago
    What does it do that a mouse can't?
    - wtallis 13y ago
      Multitouch gestures are like keyboard shortcuts that you can activate without having to take your hand off the mouse. An expanded set of gestures such as provided by jitouch is extremely powerful.
      - CatMtKing 13y ago
        There is software[1] available for mouse gestures, although it appears that it's third party and hasn't been updated in some time. Firefox has some very nice add-ons that do mouse gestures as well. For X11, there's Easystroke. [1] http://briankendall.net/xGestures/ http://briankendall.net/xGestures/
        epsylon 13y ago
        The "all-in-one gestures" Firefox add-on is the #1 reason why I use it as my main browser. Chrome doesn't have any decent gesture add-on (they even removed things like scrolling through tabs with the mouse wheel...). I've looked at the gestures documented by Apple on their site and I didn't see anything that couldn't possibly be done better with a mouse and a mouse wheel (and decent software).
epo 13y ago
I use the magic trackpad on a 27" iMac, it is a wonderful input device and exactly fast enough. There are always clueless users who don't know to adjust tracking speed just like there are always clueless Apple haters who want to believe that Apple would not have provided a tracking speed preference control to allow users to tune devices to their needs.
- w1ntermute 13y ago
  I have tried many times to correct the mouse acceleration curve on OS X, including by installing 3rd party software. So it's much more likely that there are a lot of clueless Apple users out there who don't realize how unproductive they are with such a poorly designed input system.

adyus 13y ago

I'm not sure how that trackpad was set, but I can jump across my MBP 15" diagonal with less than 2" of finger movement (more of a flick, really). After a few weeks of using it, the trackpad and its gestures have become second nature and have made me more productive by effectively disappearing into the background. It doesn't feel like there's an interface between me and the cursor anymore. Of course, YMMV.

snowwrestler 13y ago

I can get to all four corners of my 27" monitor with my Apple trackpad, because the track speed varies with velocity. Flicking my finger 1" on the track surface moves the mouse a lot farther than slowly moving the same finger the same 1". Track pads also allow gestures which greatly speed up app navigation and multitasking. Most importantly, all my wrist problems went away when I got a trackpad because it's a more relaxed position for my hand, it requires little effort to use, and it works the extension muscles of my fingers.

saurik 13y ago
It is fairly recent that Apple made the acceleration curves usable by default: classically Apple's cursors did not do this, and some people would seriously install Microsoft mouse drivers on their Macs specifically to get this acceleration behavior. It is highly likely that this person is talking about the situation from the last time he cared to evaluate Apple products, maybe five years ago (which frankly, I think is entirely fair for this thread's context).
- CatMtKing 13y ago
  I hate that macs have the mouse acceleration cranked up by default. Every time I have to show a coworker how to do something on his computer, I have to stifle the urge to throw his mouse across the room.

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alayne 13y ago

I love my trackpad. You don't know what you're talking about. This is just another opportunity for you to shit post Apple.

Gracana 13y ago
I have one and love it as well. A giant modern trackpad in all its gesture-interface glory is a pretty awesome experience. I still like to use a mouse for precise tasks, but for web browsing, documentation reading, and general use.. it really can't be beaten.
- epsylon 13y ago
  What does it do that a mouse can't?
  - wtallis 13y ago
    Multitouch gestures are like keyboard shortcuts that you can activate without having to take your hand off the mouse. An expanded set of gestures such as provided by jitouch is extremely powerful.
    - CatMtKing 13y ago
      There is software[1] available for mouse gestures, although it appears that it's third party and hasn't been updated in some time. Firefox has some very nice add-ons that do mouse gestures as well. For X11, there's Easystroke. [1] http://briankendall.net/xGestures/ http://briankendall.net/xGestures/
      - epsylon 13y ago
        The "all-in-one gestures" Firefox add-on is the #1 reason why I use it as my main browser. Chrome doesn't have any decent gesture add-on (they even removed things like scrolling through tabs with the mouse wheel...). I've looked at the gestures documented by Apple on their site and I didn't see anything that couldn't possibly be done better with a mouse and a mouse wheel (and decent software).

epo 13y ago

I use the magic trackpad on a 27" iMac, it is a wonderful input device and exactly fast enough. There are always clueless users who don't know to adjust tracking speed just like there are always clueless Apple haters who want to believe that Apple would not have provided a tracking speed preference control to allow users to tune devices to their needs.

w1ntermute 13y ago
I have tried many times to correct the mouse acceleration curve on OS X, including by installing 3rd party software. So it's much more likely that there are a lot of clueless Apple users out there who don't realize how unproductive they are with such a poorly designed input system.