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If managers only want to log in and approve stuff in batch they're still welcome to do that with Abacus. But we've found that people quickly adapt to the faster

If managers only want to log in and approve stuff in batch they're still welcome to do that with Abacus. But we've found that people quickly adapt to the faster flow — What we've found is: 1. Managers like the transparency of knowing how their employees are spending money. Many managers today actually have to nag their team to get their expenses in before they close the books. This more up-to-date information about how money is getting spent can often be helpful to the manager. 2. Approving expenses in Abacus is stupidly easy, and it shows that you love your employees. Companies (especially in tech) compete so hard to make employees happy (snacks, benefits, etc.) and Abacus is one of the easiest ways to make your employees happier. Rather than treating employees 'guilty until proven innocent' and making them wait months to get paid back for their legitimate business expenses, Abacus lets you easily reimburse your employees, which you're going to do anyway. Win win 3. It's actually a time saver. Abacus syncs directly with your bookkeeping software (time-saver) and we automatically categorize expenses, based on the vendor info we pull from foursquare (time-saver). We've also built the conversation directly into Abacus, so you can comment on any expense that needs further clarification, rather then trying to hunt someone down over email about some confusing expense from 2 months ago (time-saver). The net effect is a much tighter, faster feedback loop.

dotBen 13y ago
I respect you're doing a PR promo on HN to get lift, I've done it many times myself, not wanting to crap over your play here but... Managers shouldn't need that degree of transparency - expense policies are common, employees are not babies and should know the rules, and ultimately if an expense isn't justified the company isn't going to pay it anyway/deduct from wage (depending on whether it's personal card claim or corporate card based expenses) I don't really buy #2, monthly expenses is common and hardly making them 'guilty until innocent'. If you have to sell your company to a potential hire as "having good expense claim policies" then you've got issues. For #3, I would assume most finance teams would have existing systems in place to do the expense tracking itself (Expensify, some god-awful Oracle thing, etc) and so again, that's hardly a "win" and possibly a duplication. Foursquare characterization based on a checkin doesn't sound great compared to the heuristics that established software like Expensify already have in place. Look, I wish you the best of luck with the launch but as someone who has been many years of filing and agreeing expense reports I just don't get where the sweetspot of need is this app fills.
- tedpower 13y ago
  Agree that there needs to trust here, we're thinking about adding a setting where you can set auto-approval limits, so that any expense under $x get approved without any approval. Next time you're compiling an expense report or waiting to get reimbursed, think about how things might be different with something like Abacus ;)

dotBen 13y ago

I respect you're doing a PR promo on HN to get lift, I've done it many times myself, not wanting to crap over your play here but... Managers shouldn't need that degree of transparency - expense policies are common, employees are not babies and should know the rules, and ultimately if an expense isn't justified the company isn't going to pay it anyway/deduct from wage (depending on whether it's personal card claim or corporate card based expenses) I don't really buy #2, monthly expenses is common and hardly making them 'guilty until innocent'. If you have to sell your company to a potential hire as "having good expense claim policies" then you've got issues. For #3, I would assume most finance teams would have existing systems in place to do the expense tracking itself (Expensify, some god-awful Oracle thing, etc) and so again, that's hardly a "win" and possibly a duplication. Foursquare characterization based on a checkin doesn't sound great compared to the heuristics that established software like Expensify already have in place. Look, I wish you the best of luck with the launch but as someone who has been many years of filing and agreeing expense reports I just don't get where the sweetspot of need is this app fills.

tedpower 13y ago
Agree that there needs to trust here, we're thinking about adding a setting where you can set auto-approval limits, so that any expense under $x get approved without any approval. Next time you're compiling an expense report or waiting to get reimbursed, think about how things might be different with something like Abacus ;)