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By the way, if you hate the US's horrible tax forms, you should boycott the company Intuit (makers of Mint.com, QuickBooks, TurboTax, and more). Intuit spends

By the way, if you hate the US's horrible tax forms, you should boycott the company Intuit (makers of Mint.com, QuickBooks, TurboTax, and more). Intuit spends a huge amount of money every year lobbying to make sure that tax forms are as complicated as possible: http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/27/turbotax-maker-funnels-millions-to-lobby-against-easier-tax-returns/ http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/27/turbotax-maker-funnels-mill... So evil!!!

falconfunction 13y ago
You are so right, they should be undercutting the bidders for building it for the government and really becoming the primary developers. Why can't I deal with Intuit every day?
lstamour 13y ago
I would point out that Mint.com was a startup at first, and I can't see how it or Intuit can prevent further competitors, e.g. personal capital. So... While I do prefer free tax filing tools over QuickTax, I'm not sure Mint is to blame. If anything, by using a free service, aren't you costing them money? Edit: I might be mistaken as in Canada (where I am) it's not as easy as pay what the Government says you owe, but in turn the system does let you login to view your (bigger company) tax forms, your last return results; other relevant forms haven't been too hard for me to get ahold of digitally. Digital deposits are quick and there's multiple competing Windows and web-based clients that are both free (not just for low incomes) and certified as compatible by the CRA for each year's tax season. This has pushed more than one company to offer their products free or at a discount, but I actually really like one of the Windows clients so I'll use it next time.
- _dark_matter_ 13y ago
  ...that's like saying that by using Facebook and Twitter, you're costing them money. They'll figure out another way to make money, you're just not the customer. That's why I don't use Mint.
swayvil 13y ago
Intuit strives to keep tax forms unintuitive. Well if that isn't Orwellian then I don't know what is.

falconfunction 13y ago

You are so right, they should be undercutting the bidders for building it for the government and really becoming the primary developers. Why can't I deal with Intuit every day?

lstamour 13y ago

I would point out that Mint.com was a startup at first, and I can't see how it or Intuit can prevent further competitors, e.g. personal capital. So... While I do prefer free tax filing tools over QuickTax, I'm not sure Mint is to blame. If anything, by using a free service, aren't you costing them money? Edit: I might be mistaken as in Canada (where I am) it's not as easy as pay what the Government says you owe, but in turn the system does let you login to view your (bigger company) tax forms, your last return results; other relevant forms haven't been too hard for me to get ahold of digitally. Digital deposits are quick and there's multiple competing Windows and web-based clients that are both free (not just for low incomes) and certified as compatible by the CRA for each year's tax season. This has pushed more than one company to offer their products free or at a discount, but I actually really like one of the Windows clients so I'll use it next time.

_dark_matter_ 13y ago
...that's like saying that by using Facebook and Twitter, you're costing them money. They'll figure out another way to make money, you're just not the customer. That's why I don't use Mint.

swayvil 13y ago

Intuit strives to keep tax forms unintuitive. Well if that isn't Orwellian then I don't know what is.