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Raises an interesting idea. (At relatives house raises security questions..) A storage company which essentially takes a drive that you clone from your home m

by larrys 13y ago

Raises an interesting idea. (At relatives house raises security questions..) A storage company which essentially takes a drive that you clone from your home machine (snapshot). Then they mount that drive in a data center. You then use rsync (or a client) to get them the deltas. Or, they merely store the drive and mount it when you want to do an incremental (say every week). Otherwise it goes in a vault. Cameras in vault and drives have numbers so you can literally see where your drive is sitting at any point in time. For that warm and fuzzy feeling. The original hard drive is shipped to them (to save you the trouble of having a tb cross the network or whatever you have.). And anytime you want they ship the drive back to you. Each drive is mounted on a VPS which only you have access to. Drive spins all the time but isn't being used all the time. Hence in theory more reliability. You also keep a local backup disk as well (this is in case your house is broken into or fire etc.). The service would only do one thing, mount the drive and provide access to the drive. Not a big market for this for sure. But a market no less of some size. Even for company disaster recover purposes.

brador 13y ago
Couldn't the NSA just loop the security tape to keep you warm and fuzzy while they get your drive?
- larrys 13y ago
  Details details. Well first they would need physical access and then they would also need to know which drive number was owned by which person (not super difficult for sure but a system could be designed where it was more "swiss" in style of identification) and then they would have to break the encryption if they gained access. I am not and wasn't specifically doing this for NSA reasons more just typical reasons why you wanted to keep an offsite backup and not have it on the same drive (and mounted) in a way that would make it less likely to get taken by hackers because it wasn't physically connected to the network. So the question is, what is more secure (and not saying there aren't drawbacks..) - Files stored by google, dropbox whatever - Files stored at your aunt's - Files stored in a secure data center only physically mounted at specific times (1 time every 2 weeks say) and otherwise in a locked vault identified by number. Needing ssh key to gain access which only you have. And only you know the time it will be mounted for that matter. And maybe a text message back to your cell as well (how is all of that for security by obscurity?) For that matter safe deposit boxes aren't that expensive if you have a local bank you could simply store a clone copy of your drive there and it would be essentially safe from fire, theft and the NSA since they wouldn't know it was there to even gain (legal) access to it, right?
  - brador 13y ago
    If the intent is to make an offline backup that can't be found easily you could just dig a hole in your local park. If it's a backup of, say, customer details, that you need access to update sometimes, then the best option would be client side encryption with a cloud drive. The rest is a magic show of busy work that achieves no additional goals.

by larrys 13y ago

brador 13y ago

Couldn't the NSA just loop the security tape to keep you warm and fuzzy while they get your drive?

larrys 13y ago
Details details. Well first they would need physical access and then they would also need to know which drive number was owned by which person (not super difficult for sure but a system could be designed where it was more "swiss" in style of identification) and then they would have to break the encryption if they gained access. I am not and wasn't specifically doing this for NSA reasons more just typical reasons why you wanted to keep an offsite backup and not have it on the same drive (and mounted) in a way that would make it less likely to get taken by hackers because it wasn't physically connected to the network. So the question is, what is more secure (and not saying there aren't drawbacks..) - Files stored by google, dropbox whatever - Files stored at your aunt's - Files stored in a secure data center only physically mounted at specific times (1 time every 2 weeks say) and otherwise in a locked vault identified by number. Needing ssh key to gain access which only you have. And only you know the time it will be mounted for that matter. And maybe a text message back to your cell as well (how is all of that for security by obscurity?) For that matter safe deposit boxes aren't that expensive if you have a local bank you could simply store a clone copy of your drive there and it would be essentially safe from fire, theft and the NSA since they wouldn't know it was there to even gain (legal) access to it, right?
- brador 13y ago
  If the intent is to make an offline backup that can't be found easily you could just dig a hole in your local park. If it's a backup of, say, customer details, that you need access to update sometimes, then the best option would be client side encryption with a cloud drive. The rest is a magic show of busy work that achieves no additional goals.