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I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload (AT&T U-Verse). Certainly no blackjack and hookers included.

diminoten 13y ago
You're getting ripped off. Severely.
- fletchowns 13y ago
  You say that like I have a choice for my ISP.
  - diminoten 13y ago
    You mean like Comcast, Unwired, Sonic, MegaPath, DSL Extreme, Covad, and AT&T? Yeah, I guess I'd call that "choice".
    - fletchowns 13y ago
      AT&T U-Verse is the only thing available in my apartment complex. I chuckled at Unwired...I can pay twice as much for half the speed? Sign me up!!
eterm 13y ago
Business T1 pipe? As residential users we are I think prone to forget how much cheaper and faster our unreliable async connections are in comparison to business broadband.
- philsnow 13y ago
  I guess that you are 33 +- 3 years old :) a t1 was "fast" about 15 years ago, so if you learned a tiny bit about business class internet right around when you were 20 like I did, that's how fast a connection would have been around then.
tjohns 13y ago
Comcast in the bay area charges $77/month for a residential-class connection at 50 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up. Even if you go for a business-class connection, it's $70/month for 16/3. In short, you need to find a better ISP. :)
- fletchowns 13y ago
  There's no alternative here.
300bps 13y ago
I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload Well, that's terrible and you are no doubt aware of that. I live in Philadelphia and pay $74.95 per month for Unlimited home phone service, Prime TV channel lineup and 75 Mbps downstream and 35 Mbps upstream unlimited Internet through Verizon FIOS. I currently use both Dropbox and OneDrive but this pricing is ridiculously cheap. I've been purposely holding back on the things I back up onto cloud because of its costs but if competitors don't follow suit I'll be switching. The main thing I haven't been backing up in the cloud are the ~ 400 GB of home movies I have.
lstamour 13y ago
And then I did the math and realised I pay $1735.54 per year for my cable Internet... 300 down / 20 up with a 1 TB cap doesn't come cheap when no competition exists at those speeds. If it were even offered in my area, fibre from the same company is north of $3000/year, and for that all I get is symmetric uplink. Still, at 300 down, 1 TB = 8388608 mbits / 300 mbits/s = 466 minutes or just under 8 hours. And luckily, my monthly cap is 1 TB. (Also lucky: I don't download 24/7 to hit that cap in under 8 hours.)
- pwg 13y ago
  Verizon FIOS business class: 99.99/month. Essentially 1200/year. 50Mbit down - 50Mbit up - no data caps (or so they say). And yes, I do (provided the other end is capable) see those speeds.
  - lstamour 13y ago
    > provided the other end is capable Yeah. I noticed that too -- if a site is slow, I now either blame the location-unaware Google DNS (because of crappy ISP-provided DNS) or I know to blame the site. Even if I hardcode an alkamai address for my favourite streaming site, the only way I get to top speed is by 802.11ac when my Nexus 5 is cooperating (it really likes the stability of G or N) or by plugging in with gigabit Ethernet. But wow, it makes the Internet at work seem blazing slow. A reverse from the 90s, eh? ;-) Funny. I would have thought more people on HN would chime in with plans $100+. Of course it also makes it harder for me to shop for a dedicated server -- since I really want gigE or 10gigE to serve things fast enough to myself. And the sad truth is I know I'll see 600-1.2gbits over copper before I see fiber optics. I give it another 2-3 years tops. (Why? I'm already hooked up locally to 600mbps, but they only use half right now.) I just hope prices don't double again, as 5 years ago this plan was nearly half off for half the speed. That said, I'd pay the same to Google Fiber if they chose Toronto next year (yes, I know it's near double), just so I could have a proper, local DNS service from my ISP with no search hijacking. Is it too much to ask a telco for respect to go along with speed?

diminoten 13y ago

You're getting ripped off. Severely.

fletchowns 13y ago
You say that like I have a choice for my ISP.
- diminoten 13y ago
  You mean like Comcast, Unwired, Sonic, MegaPath, DSL Extreme, Covad, and AT&T? Yeah, I guess I'd call that "choice".
  - fletchowns 13y ago
    AT&T U-Verse is the only thing available in my apartment complex. I chuckled at Unwired...I can pay twice as much for half the speed? Sign me up!!

eterm 13y ago

Business T1 pipe? As residential users we are I think prone to forget how much cheaper and faster our unreliable async connections are in comparison to business broadband.

philsnow 13y ago
I guess that you are 33 +- 3 years old :) a t1 was "fast" about 15 years ago, so if you learned a tiny bit about business class internet right around when you were 20 like I did, that's how fast a connection would have been around then.

tjohns 13y ago

Comcast in the bay area charges $77/month for a residential-class connection at 50 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up. Even if you go for a business-class connection, it's $70/month for 16/3. In short, you need to find a better ISP. :)

fletchowns 13y ago
There's no alternative here.

300bps 13y ago

I live in the Bay Area and I pay about $800/year for 120KB/s upload Well, that's terrible and you are no doubt aware of that. I live in Philadelphia and pay $74.95 per month for Unlimited home phone service, Prime TV channel lineup and 75 Mbps downstream and 35 Mbps upstream unlimited Internet through Verizon FIOS. I currently use both Dropbox and OneDrive but this pricing is ridiculously cheap. I've been purposely holding back on the things I back up onto cloud because of its costs but if competitors don't follow suit I'll be switching. The main thing I haven't been backing up in the cloud are the ~ 400 GB of home movies I have.

lstamour 13y ago

And then I did the math and realised I pay $1735.54 per year for my cable Internet... 300 down / 20 up with a 1 TB cap doesn't come cheap when no competition exists at those speeds. If it were even offered in my area, fibre from the same company is north of $3000/year, and for that all I get is symmetric uplink. Still, at 300 down, 1 TB = 8388608 mbits / 300 mbits/s = 466 minutes or just under 8 hours. And luckily, my monthly cap is 1 TB. (Also lucky: I don't download 24/7 to hit that cap in under 8 hours.)

pwg 13y ago
Verizon FIOS business class: 99.99/month. Essentially 1200/year. 50Mbit down - 50Mbit up - no data caps (or so they say). And yes, I do (provided the other end is capable) see those speeds.
- lstamour 13y ago
  > provided the other end is capable Yeah. I noticed that too -- if a site is slow, I now either blame the location-unaware Google DNS (because of crappy ISP-provided DNS) or I know to blame the site. Even if I hardcode an alkamai address for my favourite streaming site, the only way I get to top speed is by 802.11ac when my Nexus 5 is cooperating (it really likes the stability of G or N) or by plugging in with gigabit Ethernet. But wow, it makes the Internet at work seem blazing slow. A reverse from the 90s, eh? ;-) Funny. I would have thought more people on HN would chime in with plans $100+. Of course it also makes it harder for me to shop for a dedicated server -- since I really want gigE or 10gigE to serve things fast enough to myself. And the sad truth is I know I'll see 600-1.2gbits over copper before I see fiber optics. I give it another 2-3 years tops. (Why? I'm already hooked up locally to 600mbps, but they only use half right now.) I just hope prices don't double again, as 5 years ago this plan was nearly half off for half the speed. That said, I'd pay the same to Google Fiber if they chose Toronto next year (yes, I know it's near double), just so I could have a proper, local DNS service from my ISP with no search hijacking. Is it too much to ask a telco for respect to go along with speed?