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I don't know about Americans, but I hope Europeans are staying as far away from American clouds as possible. At least for government use, using non-open source

I don't know about Americans, but I hope Europeans are staying as far away from American clouds as possible. At least for government use, using non-open source American software should be considered a "national security risk" at this point, with no exaggeration.

icebraining 13y ago
Ha, as if European hosted providers were safe from US snooping.
smtddr 13y ago
What are some non-American & reliable cloud companies?
- _delirium 13y ago
  Depending on what kind of cloud services you're looking for, Jottacloud (Norway) is vaguely like Dropbox. Exoscale (Switzerland) is roughly analogous to AWS.
  - sschueller 13y ago
    I would be careful with Exoscale. They are using two datacenters from Equinix which is a US based company spending hundreds if millions in new data centers in Switzerland. In addition Exoscale states: "The datacenter company guarantees us that no data shall be stored outside of Switzerland." Which would indicated that they do not own their own hardware. That would mean Equinix owns it. I do not trust Equinix and it is scary how many data centers they operate in Zürich alone now. I wonder where they get all that money to build them? NSA?
  - eropple 13y ago
    Exoscale is much more like Rackspace Cloud than AWS. Which is unfortunate. A real AWS alternative would be nice.
  - herokusaki 13y ago
    How is your experience with Jottacloud?
    - _delirium 13y ago
      I haven't tried it yet, mostly because of the lack of a Linux client. They claim they will ship one in 2014, though. They give you an interesting choice between pricing models (http://www.jottacloud.com/prices/ http://www.jottacloud.com/prices/). Besides the conventional pay-for-space model, they have another model where you get unlimited space but pay per linked device, $6/mo per computer and $1.70/mo per mobile device.
- scoopr 13y ago
  Also F-Secure offers Younited[0] [0] http://www.younited.com http://www.younited.com

icebraining 13y ago

Ha, as if European hosted providers were safe from US snooping.

smtddr 13y ago

What are some non-American & reliable cloud companies?

_delirium 13y ago
Depending on what kind of cloud services you're looking for, Jottacloud (Norway) is vaguely like Dropbox. Exoscale (Switzerland) is roughly analogous to AWS.
- sschueller 13y ago
  I would be careful with Exoscale. They are using two datacenters from Equinix which is a US based company spending hundreds if millions in new data centers in Switzerland. In addition Exoscale states: "The datacenter company guarantees us that no data shall be stored outside of Switzerland." Which would indicated that they do not own their own hardware. That would mean Equinix owns it. I do not trust Equinix and it is scary how many data centers they operate in Zürich alone now. I wonder where they get all that money to build them? NSA?
- eropple 13y ago
  Exoscale is much more like Rackspace Cloud than AWS. Which is unfortunate. A real AWS alternative would be nice.
- herokusaki 13y ago
  How is your experience with Jottacloud?
  - _delirium 13y ago
    I haven't tried it yet, mostly because of the lack of a Linux client. They claim they will ship one in 2014, though. They give you an interesting choice between pricing models (http://www.jottacloud.com/prices/ http://www.jottacloud.com/prices/). Besides the conventional pay-for-space model, they have another model where you get unlimited space but pay per linked device, $6/mo per computer and $1.70/mo per mobile device.
scoopr 13y ago
Also F-Secure offers Younited[0] [0] http://www.younited.com http://www.younited.com