You and I disagreed about Rust's complexity in the past. In the meanwhile, I've actually come to appreciate Rust for the reasons you outlined above. It really

You and I disagreed about Rust's complexity in the past. In the meanwhile, I've actually come to appreciate Rust for the reasons you outlined above. It really is the only new (non-research) language with modern features that also includes a deterministic, safe, GC-free memory management, which fills a big hole. And it's a cool language, with a nice, functional feel, particularly with how the standard library is shaping up. However, let's be clear that the pointer semantics do bring a great deal of complexity to the language. That said, I'm very impressed that the managed pointer sigil has been eliminated and the feature moved to the stdlib. That and the fact that Rust's team has clearly pushed the message that owned pointers are the idiomatic way to deal with memory in Rust have combined to bring a lot of clarity to the language. Also, as stated above, I really like the direction that the standard library is taking. So congrats on a job well-done. Edit: Let me also congratulate you on the Rust compiler error messages, which are almost invariably clear and actionable compared with other languages I'm playing with in this space.