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And more importantly - will they be looking? We are only looking at small portion of the sky at a time. At the same time in order to send messages to other star
by TrainedMonkey 13y ago
And more importantly - will they be looking? We are only looking at small portion of the sky at a time. At the same time in order to send messages to other stars powerful telescopes need to be utilized. You can't simply build a telescope per star with a planet that is thought to contain life and broadcast all the time.
Thus, if civilization is not capable to monitor all of the sky at the same time with low powered telescopes and quickly point high powered telescopes when something interesting is detected, there is extremely small chance that it would be able to communicate effectively. That is retransmitting the signal to the same star is worth inherently less when compared to trying to transmit to a new star.
If interstellar travel is not viable, what we would want to do is transmit wikipedia[0] to all stars that could contain life. Traveling time for information would be long enough that we can't expect confirmation or two way communication. So what you would want to do is make a really powerful telescope beaming wikipedia to one star at a time (or many telescopes transmitting to different stars). Idea is - you do not want to repeat yourself. If you sent information once, and it have not been received, you would not want to try again for a long while. That is due to the fact that chance that civilization would develop that can listen to your signals in relatively short amount of time is unlikely. So I would say that if this is logic transmitting civilization would use then a signal would not be repeated for thousands of years.
While writing this I though of algorithm that might work better to maximize amount of civilizations you reach. This would require a relatively stable space transmitter, or series of coordinated ground transmitters:
1. Pick a set of stars S that potentially can support advanced civilization and are located closely in a region of space (so you do not have to reposition telescope a lot).
2. Start sending signals primer signals to stars. For signal S[x], temporal difference between S[x] and S[x+1] would a set amount shorter than temporal distance between S[x-1] and S[x]. Primer signals are short and cheap, transmitting entire Wikipedia should take way longer (Weeks, months, maybe years?).
3. Once time between primer signals reaches some threshold start transmitting data set.
Idea is that this will give advanced civilization potentially listening a chance to prepare to receive full transmission, while avoiding costly repeats of big data set.
[0] Wikipedia is chosen as sufficiently large volume of knowledge about human civilization that we would potentially want to transmit.
- vlasev 13y agoActually, if we get to a point where we strongly suspect an alien world contains life, it would probably be a good investment to spend a lot of time pointing a telescope in its direction. I imagine almost all (useful) telescopes will point in its direction.
- TrainedMonkey 13y agoLife on Earth is 3.5 billion years old. We are able to transmit and receive radio signals for barely a hundred. Aside from the issue of how we would divine if an alien world contains life, even if we did pointing most of telescopes in it's direction is most certainly a waste. Chance that somebody would be transmitting when we are listening is vanishingly small.
- sillysaurus3 13y agoTrying to notify intelligent life that we exist has a high probability of being the worst idea in all of human history, because there's a high probability that there will be no more human history after we meet them. But radio emissions swiftly degrade after not too long of a distance, so unless we build some kind of extremely high-powered transmitter then any scheme like this is doomed to failure. Luckily.
- Zigurd 13y agoThat conjecture is much less certain than it is portrayed. Let's say we found a civilization of oyster-like creatures on a oceanic moon of a gas giant planet of a nearby star. Are we really going to go that far for a raw bar? "Conquering" stellar civilizations only happens in space operas.
- spacehome 13y agoThe fact that your first thought is about the feasibility of eating aliens lends tonnes of support to the idea that it's in the aliens' best interest to wipe us out.