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"Amazon warehouses shouldn't become the sweatshops of tomorrow" They already are... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busi

"Amazon warehouses shouldn't become the sweatshops of tomorrow" They already are... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25034598 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03k5kzp/Panorama_Amazon_The_Truth_Behind_the_Click/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03k5kzp/Panorama_Amazo... http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/01/week-amazon-insider-feature-treatment-employees-work http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/01/week-amazo...

toomuchtodo 13y ago
I'm aware. I have more faith in the German government protecting its citizens compared to the US government.
- mAritz 13y ago
  As mentioned in the article, it isn't really. There were mass protests by amazon employees in Germany last year. I don't know if anything really changed since then, but I kind of doubt it.
- VMG 13y ago
  soon robots will eliminate those jobs completely anyway, the ultimate protection against low-wage jobs
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    The option then will be simple: Pitchforks or a Basic Income.
    - avar 13y ago
      Or performing some useful function that can't trivially be replaced by menial robotic labor?
      - toomuchtodo 13y ago
        Would you consider being a doctor a useful function? IBM's Watson already performs as well as a second year med student [http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/05/25/ibms-watson-now-a-second-year-med-student/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/05/25/ibms-watso...]. Eventually, all jobs will be replaced by software or robotic labor. What then? EDIT: "Your Job Taught to Machines Puts Half U.S. Work at Risk" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-12/your-job-taught-to-machines-puts-half-u-s-work-at-risk.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-12/your-job-taught-to-...
        sb23 13y ago
        You get a job fixing the machines
    - VMG 13y ago
      In the past, the reaction to pitchfork was usually emigration
      - toomuchtodo 13y ago
        To where? An island with no poor people? The world is too small for emigration to be a solution anymore.
        eru 13y ago
        Just to a better run place.
- samplonius 13y ago
  Based on what? The Otto Group is battling unions in Hermes, like Amazon is battling unions in their warehouses. Is there any difference at all? I know Europe like to view US as a big monster to scare kids: you better behave or big mean US will eat you! But is there anything objective that the German gov't is going to help anyone anymore than the US gov't? Maybe healhcare?
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    > But is there anything objective that the German gov't is going to help anyone anymore than the US gov't? Maybe healhcare? A substantial social safety net? Sane workplace hours and practices?

toomuchtodo 13y ago

I'm aware. I have more faith in the German government protecting its citizens compared to the US government.

mAritz 13y ago
As mentioned in the article, it isn't really. There were mass protests by amazon employees in Germany last year. I don't know if anything really changed since then, but I kind of doubt it.
VMG 13y ago
soon robots will eliminate those jobs completely anyway, the ultimate protection against low-wage jobs
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  The option then will be simple: Pitchforks or a Basic Income.
  - avar 13y ago
    Or performing some useful function that can't trivially be replaced by menial robotic labor?
    - toomuchtodo 13y ago
      Would you consider being a doctor a useful function? IBM's Watson already performs as well as a second year med student [http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/05/25/ibms-watson-now-a-second-year-med-student/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/05/25/ibms-watso...]. Eventually, all jobs will be replaced by software or robotic labor. What then? EDIT: "Your Job Taught to Machines Puts Half U.S. Work at Risk" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-12/your-job-taught-to-machines-puts-half-u-s-work-at-risk.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-12/your-job-taught-to-...
      - sb23 13y ago
        You get a job fixing the machines
  - VMG 13y ago
    In the past, the reaction to pitchfork was usually emigration
    - toomuchtodo 13y ago
      To where? An island with no poor people? The world is too small for emigration to be a solution anymore.
      - eru 13y ago
        Just to a better run place.
samplonius 13y ago
Based on what? The Otto Group is battling unions in Hermes, like Amazon is battling unions in their warehouses. Is there any difference at all? I know Europe like to view US as a big monster to scare kids: you better behave or big mean US will eat you! But is there anything objective that the German gov't is going to help anyone anymore than the US gov't? Maybe healhcare?
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  > But is there anything objective that the German gov't is going to help anyone anymore than the US gov't? Maybe healhcare? A substantial social safety net? Sane workplace hours and practices?