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Please excuse the bluntness that follows - I am genuinely frustrated by your attitude. This is my final reply with you on this matter, because frankly your beha

Please excuse the bluntness that follows - I am genuinely frustrated by your attitude. This is my final reply with you on this matter, because frankly your behavior doesn't deserve any more time, and this is putting a bigger dent in my productivity today than any office environment-related concerns. In this thread you have accused myself, and others, of prescribing our preferences to you. We have not, in fact you have done the reverse to us. In this thread you have accused myself, and others, of being selfish when in fact we advocate for people to work in any environment that best suits them. In this thread you have insisted that you know our (none of whom you've ever met) productivity better than we do ourselves. In this thread you have presumed that we work in environments where we are disrespectful of our peers. Speaking only for myself, that cannot be further from the truth. Around here we have discussed candidly what works for people and what does not, offer alternatives to people who do not want open environments, and we continue to encourage people to speak up on any issues relating to the work environment, whether it's productivity-related or simply related to their enjoyment (believe it or not, not all open-plan-preferring people work best in just any open-plan setup). We are fully cognizant that different people work better in different environments, and we offer that freedom to everyone. You have falsely accused many of us the same disrespect you have shown us. You have falsely accused us of projecting and prescribing, when the only one doing the projecting and prescribing is you. You are looking for a Big Bad Guy so hard it borders on the absurd. You have approached anyone here even slightly pro-open-plan with hostility and condescension when no attitude has been shown to you. We get it, you've had bad experiences at previous companies re: open-plan. Don't take it out on us. Neither myself nor anyone who has commented here is responsible for your past experiences, and none of us take anything close to the stance you have previously experienced. So don't treat us like it.

mgkimsal 13y ago
I acknowledged I'm likely projecting some of this. That you or others took some of this personally is odd - I thought I was pretty clear in indicating that these were my own experiences. Outside of that, apologies for the one dig at you specifically about your 'deriving energy' comment - my reply was worded correctly, and certainly came across differently than I intended. Agreed on dropping this - not intending to cause offense - I also suspect that if this was a face to face conversation we'd have agreed more than disagreed (as has happened when this has come up at user group meetings in the area now and then).

mgkimsal 13y ago

I acknowledged I'm likely projecting some of this. That you or others took some of this personally is odd - I thought I was pretty clear in indicating that these were my own experiences. Outside of that, apologies for the one dig at you specifically about your 'deriving energy' comment - my reply was worded correctly, and certainly came across differently than I intended. Agreed on dropping this - not intending to cause offense - I also suspect that if this was a face to face conversation we'd have agreed more than disagreed (as has happened when this has come up at user group meetings in the area now and then).