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I get this I really do, you can invent just-so stories about transmission with anything regardless of whether he's wearing Glass. Doctor visits patient with <h

I get this I really do, you can invent just-so stories about transmission with anything regardless of whether he's wearing Glass. Doctor visits patient with <highly transmissable pathogen> touches x, washes hands and but then (!) retouches x and treats an immune-deficient patient etc. My point is x can be forehead, hair, pocket, watch, any variable you can think of and we can't control for any of them. You seem to think every item a doctor carries needs to be autoclaved at clocking out time, when really the only viable solution is to wash your hands, change gloves etc. — sterilise your contact points, not your person and everything on it.

Fomite 13y ago
> we can't control for any of them Yes, we can. Infection control procedure is exactly that, and we have begin looking at how we can minimize as many of those items as possible. Things like the universal gowning and gloving studies, examining how to clean surfaces and keep them clean, what to do about cell phone and clothing contamination, etc. There are a massive number of studies showing contamination of things doctors carry, and studies showing heavy correlations between the level of contamination and patient outcomes. It's an active area of research, and commercial development. Your idea that somehow "Wash your hands and change gloves" is fine, but "Find out if you can use clorhexidine wipes on Google Glass, and if we need to" is somehow Infection Control Gone Mad! really puzzles me.
- jebus989 13y ago
  That's mischaracterising my position, so I don't doubt you're puzzled.
  - Fomite 13y ago
    "Now, like all pieces of medical equipment, it would probably good to culture some swabs off them to see what's growing, and how hard they are to clean." leads to you... "You seem to think every item a doctor carries needs to be autoclaved at clocking out time" and claiming tabloid scare stories. Perhaps it isn't well characterized to begin with?

Fomite 13y ago

> we can't control for any of them Yes, we can. Infection control procedure is exactly that, and we have begin looking at how we can minimize as many of those items as possible. Things like the universal gowning and gloving studies, examining how to clean surfaces and keep them clean, what to do about cell phone and clothing contamination, etc. There are a massive number of studies showing contamination of things doctors carry, and studies showing heavy correlations between the level of contamination and patient outcomes. It's an active area of research, and commercial development. Your idea that somehow "Wash your hands and change gloves" is fine, but "Find out if you can use clorhexidine wipes on Google Glass, and if we need to" is somehow Infection Control Gone Mad! really puzzles me.

jebus989 13y ago
That's mischaracterising my position, so I don't doubt you're puzzled.
- Fomite 13y ago
  "Now, like all pieces of medical equipment, it would probably good to culture some swabs off them to see what's growing, and how hard they are to clean." leads to you... "You seem to think every item a doctor carries needs to be autoclaved at clocking out time" and claiming tabloid scare stories. Perhaps it isn't well characterized to begin with?