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If it's used as a drop-in replacement for dirtier sources, and doesn't stop any cleaner sources from being developed or used, isn't it a strict win? Maybe swit
by showerst 13y ago
If it's used as a drop-in replacement for dirtier sources, and doesn't stop any cleaner sources from being developed or used, isn't it a strict win?
Maybe switching to a somewhat cleaner source would slow down movement towards green sources, but it seems like using CH4 is an overall win given what it's a substitute for.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoCoal->Natuaral Gas? Good. Natural Gas being deployed instead of solar or wind? Bad. Natural Gas being deployed along side solar and wind? Best case. One day the price of natural gas is going to rise again and people are going to be stuck with combined cycle natgas generators that are too expensive to run.
- protomyth 13y agoI wouldn't mind wind if we started protecting the birds. I'm fond of solar, but until wind power is less destructive, I don't see why we should deploy it anywhere but off the coasts.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoCats kill more birds every year than wind turbines: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-06/u-s-eases-turbine-bird-death-rule-as-cats-kill-millions.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-06/u-s-eases-turbine-b...
- protomyth 13y agoCats don't kill eagles, hawks, and geese.
- dllthomas 13y agoCitation needed.
- protomyth 13y agoReally? How many friggin house cats can kill eagles? Hawks? Hell, a goose can damn near kill a human much less a cat. How about you find a cite for super cat the eagle slayer.
- dllthomas 13y agoI've seen a cat take a small hawk. Eagles, probably not, but I've been surprised before.
- protomyth 13y agoThat's got to be a damn big, atypical cat. Eagles take out foxes. Wind energy needs to address the problem it causes because it sure isn't good for the birds.
- dllthomas 13y agoRaptors typically pounce on prey and kill it quickly. A bird on the ground (eating, say) that is surprised is far less lethal than a bird attacking. Like I said, though, probably not eagles.
- protomyth 13y agoI don't think you can find one bit of statistical evidence that cats kill more hawks than windmills. Windmills should be limited to places with no birds or be redesigned to not kill off the birds. Put them offshore.
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- protomyth 13y agoFine, the total bird death from cats is not a reason to give a pass to windmills for killing large birds that cats cannot kill. It is a "well, their meaner than me" argument. Once you get a certain distance you out of a birds normal range. Migration patterns are easy to track and plan for.