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woah, cool down! I didn't call anyone a petulant teenager, not even teenagers. Your own space that you control is nicer and I'm arguing that people want it most

by netcan 13y ago

woah, cool down! I didn't call anyone a petulant teenager, not even teenagers. Your own space that you control is nicer and I'm arguing that people want it mostly because it's nicer. Productivity often overlaps with privacy and it may in this case, but I don't think people are as passionate about productivity boosting choices when they don't overlap with pleasantness. BTW, There is nothing wrong with wanting a nicer work environment.

mattmanser 13y ago
I like getting loads of work done. I like getting into the zone. You feel good afterwards. I so rarely get into the zone at work I can often count the times in the last month on a hand. And usually it'll be after most people left. You're putting words into people's mouth that aren't true (and you did compare us to 14 year olds!). Yes privacy is good, but mostly we'd just like to be able to get on with work without constant interruptions. If you'd have claimed all CEOs are inherently paranoid and don't trust their workers to work in private offices you'd have been as wrong.
- _kfb 13y ago
  > (and you did compare us to 14 year olds!) For what it's worth, I read their comment as meaning that some things we desire are the same throughout our lifetimes. In the same way that teenagers want to decorate their rooms to reflect themselves, as adults we have the same drives (though maybe with fewer posters of slightly-shameful bands).
- netcan 13y ago
  I don't see how you read petulant teenager from what I wrote. >> We want our own space. We want to control our environment. Same thing every 14 year old wants. We spend half our lives at work and we want a pleasant office for the same reason we want a pleasant home. More space is more pleasant.
disputin 13y ago
I think you're confusing achieving optimal productivity with achieving decent productivity. Sometimes even the latter is a depressing struggle.

by netcan 13y ago

mattmanser 13y ago

I like getting loads of work done. I like getting into the zone. You feel good afterwards. I so rarely get into the zone at work I can often count the times in the last month on a hand. And usually it'll be after most people left. You're putting words into people's mouth that aren't true (and you did compare us to 14 year olds!). Yes privacy is good, but mostly we'd just like to be able to get on with work without constant interruptions. If you'd have claimed all CEOs are inherently paranoid and don't trust their workers to work in private offices you'd have been as wrong.

_kfb 13y ago
> (and you did compare us to 14 year olds!) For what it's worth, I read their comment as meaning that some things we desire are the same throughout our lifetimes. In the same way that teenagers want to decorate their rooms to reflect themselves, as adults we have the same drives (though maybe with fewer posters of slightly-shameful bands).
netcan 13y ago
I don't see how you read petulant teenager from what I wrote. >> We want our own space. We want to control our environment. Same thing every 14 year old wants. We spend half our lives at work and we want a pleasant office for the same reason we want a pleasant home. More space is more pleasant.

disputin 13y ago

I think you're confusing achieving optimal productivity with achieving decent productivity. Sometimes even the latter is a depressing struggle.