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> With my fitness tracker, I want it to run all the time, even offline like a native app. But every day of my workout history will have a URL and I can link my

by weland 13y ago

> With my fitness tracker, I want it to run all the time, even offline like a native app. But every day of my workout history will have a URL and I can link my friends to it. Slowly, slowly, we'll be reinventing web. I can't wait for 2020, when these brand new apps that structure every kind of data and make it uniformly accessible, in a form that makes it easy for automated programs to reason about both content and structure, are going to be all the rage. I'm actually excited about it. What makes me bitter is the fact that I have no idea what the fuck we were doing wrong in the early 2000s or so, because we should have been there already. It's easy to find scapegoats like Facebook, tightly clutching private data in poorly-designed, ever-changing access schemes that polarize the WWW, but I'm not entirely convinced they're the only ones to blame.

rimantas 13y ago
> I can't wait for 2020 You may as well wait till 2200 till someone finds a solution to the problem no one has. If we are going to do something slowly of quickly it is to finally understand what web is and what it isn't.
toyg 13y ago
> I have no idea what the fuck we were doing wrong in the early 2000s or so I don't think "we" were dong anything wrong. A lot of stuff now being used to accelerate web development simply wasn't mature enough, back then. Also, there are critical-mass effects that simply couldn't be done in early 2000s. Still, a lot of people were already working on these problems on a conceptual level.
- weland 13y ago
  > A lot of stuff now being used to accelerate web development simply wasn't mature enough, back then. I think web development is speedy, and it also was fairly speedy in the 2000s, too. The web, on the other hand, not so much, and much of it is bloated and hampered by abstraction layers to an indecent degree. JS doesn't help, either. Something took a wrong turn at a point and the immature, but potentially capable technologies we had degenerated into today's clusterfuck.

by weland 13y ago

rimantas 13y ago

> I can't wait for 2020 You may as well wait till 2200 till someone finds a solution to the problem no one has. If we are going to do something slowly of quickly it is to finally understand what web is and what it isn't.

toyg 13y ago

> I have no idea what the fuck we were doing wrong in the early 2000s or so I don't think "we" were dong anything wrong. A lot of stuff now being used to accelerate web development simply wasn't mature enough, back then. Also, there are critical-mass effects that simply couldn't be done in early 2000s. Still, a lot of people were already working on these problems on a conceptual level.

weland 13y ago
> A lot of stuff now being used to accelerate web development simply wasn't mature enough, back then. I think web development is speedy, and it also was fairly speedy in the 2000s, too. The web, on the other hand, not so much, and much of it is bloated and hampered by abstraction layers to an indecent degree. JS doesn't help, either. Something took a wrong turn at a point and the immature, but potentially capable technologies we had degenerated into today's clusterfuck.