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> It's not easy for people to just pack up and move. What if you've lived there your whole life? What if your friends and family lived there? What if your job w

> It's not easy for people to just pack up and move. What if you've lived there your whole life? What if your friends and family lived there? What if your job was there? I've done many things I didn't want to. It's part of being an adult. Then again, nobody makes me eat my vegetables.

normloman 13y ago
You echo a lot of other comments. Boils down to "I've had to relocate, so nobody else gets to complain." That's not a valid argument. Being forced to move sucks, no matter who you are. More importantly, why should the poor in San Francisco move? They were there first. They could afford rent, until us tech people came. Why should we crowd them out? And if we did, is that the kind of city we want? A city where everyone is rich, and the poor and middle class huddle into slums outside the border? Here's how that will turn out: When the rich city makes too much garbage, they will dump it in the middle of poor city. When the state creates funds for new infrastructure project, you can bet they will all go to rich city. When big companies relocate, they will build their luxurious campus in rich city. Sorry, no jobs for poor city. But don't worry, rich city still needs street sweepers and baristas. Huddling the poor in a small area just makes them an easier target for oppression.
- maxlybbert 13y ago
  > Boils down to "I've had to relocate, so nobody else gets to complain." I'm sorry. That's not my argument in any way. For one, I support free speech enough that I won't say people have no right to complain. Personally, I think anybody who constantly streams complaints is probably immature and not somebody I want to associate with, but they can complain all they want; I'll simply tune them out. Looking at the particular case of this lady: * she is currently homeless, and apparently does not like that; * she used to antagonize her former landlord; * her former landlord tried to help her find a new place, but she declined the help; * she refuses to work with organizations that exist to help people like her, she apparently chafes at their rules and regulations; * she has the option of moving to Germany free of charge, but refuses to do so. But my statement that "doing things you don't like is part of being an adult" is true. Many college students are appalled when they discover that the life isn't as easy as they were led to believe. I'm sure I was one of them; it's been a while and my memory is foggy. But complaining that things aren't always hunky dory is silly. At some point you have to make the best with what you have. And saying "but I don't want to move away from my friends" or "but why do I have to pay market rates for a place to live?" simply comes off as immature.

normloman 13y ago

You echo a lot of other comments. Boils down to "I've had to relocate, so nobody else gets to complain." That's not a valid argument. Being forced to move sucks, no matter who you are. More importantly, why should the poor in San Francisco move? They were there first. They could afford rent, until us tech people came. Why should we crowd them out? And if we did, is that the kind of city we want? A city where everyone is rich, and the poor and middle class huddle into slums outside the border? Here's how that will turn out: When the rich city makes too much garbage, they will dump it in the middle of poor city. When the state creates funds for new infrastructure project, you can bet they will all go to rich city. When big companies relocate, they will build their luxurious campus in rich city. Sorry, no jobs for poor city. But don't worry, rich city still needs street sweepers and baristas. Huddling the poor in a small area just makes them an easier target for oppression.

maxlybbert 13y ago
> Boils down to "I've had to relocate, so nobody else gets to complain." I'm sorry. That's not my argument in any way. For one, I support free speech enough that I won't say people have no right to complain. Personally, I think anybody who constantly streams complaints is probably immature and not somebody I want to associate with, but they can complain all they want; I'll simply tune them out. Looking at the particular case of this lady: * she is currently homeless, and apparently does not like that; * she used to antagonize her former landlord; * her former landlord tried to help her find a new place, but she declined the help; * she refuses to work with organizations that exist to help people like her, she apparently chafes at their rules and regulations; * she has the option of moving to Germany free of charge, but refuses to do so. But my statement that "doing things you don't like is part of being an adult" is true. Many college students are appalled when they discover that the life isn't as easy as they were led to believe. I'm sure I was one of them; it's been a while and my memory is foggy. But complaining that things aren't always hunky dory is silly. At some point you have to make the best with what you have. And saying "but I don't want to move away from my friends" or "but why do I have to pay market rates for a place to live?" simply comes off as immature.