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It was probably born out of the fact that this is the truth for PC gaming, where Microsoft uses DirectX and "all" the other platforms use OpenGL. For a long ti

by sspiff 13y ago

It was probably born out of the fact that this is the truth for PC gaming, where Microsoft uses DirectX and "all" the other platforms use OpenGL. For a long time, console game development was obscure and unaccessible (and to a large extent, this is still the case), so aspiring game developers had somewhat of a tunnel vision when it came to game platforms.

pjmlp 13y ago
> It was probably born out of the fact that this is the truth for PC gaming, where Microsoft uses DirectX and "all" the other platforms use OpenGL. Except Acorn, Atari, Amiga, Mac OS (<= 9) never had real OpenGL support as well.
- sspiff 13y ago
  Right, but we're talking about 3D hardware APIs, which didn't really exist in a large scale until the late 90's/early 2000's.
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    You mean like Warp3D (Amiga) and QuickDraw3D (Apple) ?
    - wolfgke 13y ago
      But then add Glide (DOS), please. :-)
      - pjmlp 13y ago
        I left it out on purpose, because DOS was a Microsoft platform as well.
        wolfgke 13y ago
        > I left it out on purpose, because DOS was a Microsoft platform as well. MS-DOS was a Microsoft platform, but not DOS itself: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS Also Glide was not a Microsoft API.
        pjmlp 13y ago
        I just wrote DOS as I always abbreviated MS-DOS as DOS. DR-DOS actually came with the first PC I bought and it was for all effects a MS-DOS clone, hence a DOS clone, like PC-DOS from IBM and a few others on those days.
        wolfgke 13y ago
        > DR-DOS actually came with the first PC I bought and it was for all effects a MS-DOS clone, hence a DOS clone, like PC-DOS from IBM and a few others on those days. Under this argumentation GNU/Linux or even OS X is a UNIX clone and both should be abbreviated to UNIX (or UN*X to avoid trademark violations ;-) ). Indeed both originate from UNIX clones - but then new features were added that made them better than the original in a sense. The same happened to DR-DOS. Read DR-DOS' wikipedia article to read about features that DR-DOS added over Microsoft's original.
        pjmlp 13y ago
        Did you failed to read I was a DR-DOS user? I use computers since the early 80's.
        wolfgke 13y ago
        I was a DR-DOS user, too (Novell DOS 7).
        sspiff 13y ago
        But I believe Glide wasn't a Microsoft API, so the example is still fine to defend your case.
      - 72deluxe 13y ago
        I remember playing Screamer 2 with that. I think my brother still has his 3dfx cards lying around (Voodoo Dragon, Banshee etc.) Happy times. The music in Screamer 1 was better though, more noodly guitar music in the style of Satriani.
    - sspiff 13y ago
      I said large scale, not very many people had the accelerators required to use these APIs. Glide is perhaps the first real example to hit a scale that mattered.

by sspiff 13y ago

pjmlp 13y ago

> It was probably born out of the fact that this is the truth for PC gaming, where Microsoft uses DirectX and "all" the other platforms use OpenGL. Except Acorn, Atari, Amiga, Mac OS (<= 9) never had real OpenGL support as well.

sspiff 13y ago
Right, but we're talking about 3D hardware APIs, which didn't really exist in a large scale until the late 90's/early 2000's.
- pjmlp 13y ago
  You mean like Warp3D (Amiga) and QuickDraw3D (Apple) ?
  - wolfgke 13y ago
    But then add Glide (DOS), please. :-)
    - pjmlp 13y ago
      I left it out on purpose, because DOS was a Microsoft platform as well.
      - wolfgke 13y ago
        > I left it out on purpose, because DOS was a Microsoft platform as well. MS-DOS was a Microsoft platform, but not DOS itself: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-DOS Also Glide was not a Microsoft API.
        pjmlp 13y ago
        I just wrote DOS as I always abbreviated MS-DOS as DOS. DR-DOS actually came with the first PC I bought and it was for all effects a MS-DOS clone, hence a DOS clone, like PC-DOS from IBM and a few others on those days.
        wolfgke 13y ago
        > DR-DOS actually came with the first PC I bought and it was for all effects a MS-DOS clone, hence a DOS clone, like PC-DOS from IBM and a few others on those days. Under this argumentation GNU/Linux or even OS X is a UNIX clone and both should be abbreviated to UNIX (or UN*X to avoid trademark violations ;-) ). Indeed both originate from UNIX clones - but then new features were added that made them better than the original in a sense. The same happened to DR-DOS. Read DR-DOS' wikipedia article to read about features that DR-DOS added over Microsoft's original.
        pjmlp 13y ago
        Did you failed to read I was a DR-DOS user? I use computers since the early 80's.
        wolfgke 13y ago
        I was a DR-DOS user, too (Novell DOS 7).
      - sspiff 13y ago
        But I believe Glide wasn't a Microsoft API, so the example is still fine to defend your case.
    - 72deluxe 13y ago
      I remember playing Screamer 2 with that. I think my brother still has his 3dfx cards lying around (Voodoo Dragon, Banshee etc.) Happy times. The music in Screamer 1 was better though, more noodly guitar music in the style of Satriani.
  - sspiff 13y ago
    I said large scale, not very many people had the accelerators required to use these APIs. Glide is perhaps the first real example to hit a scale that mattered.