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That's pretty soft moral justification for whatever infringing acts you're defending. You'll get no argument from me that copyright durations have gotten out of

That's pretty soft moral justification for whatever infringing acts you're defending. You'll get no argument from me that copyright durations have gotten out of control, but that doesn't exactly give you fair cause to download Game of Thrones or whatever it is you want.

Jare 13y ago
There are in fact acceptable levels of relativity in the morality of acts (otherwise we couldn't have laws), so yeah, it can certainly be fair cause. Now, you may believe that this moral justification is nothing more than an argument and the real justification for pirating a show is "because I am greedy, screw the authors"; however, this applies almost exactly to media conglomerates and their pro-copyright lobbying and protectionist activities. So, all in all, this is a small but perfectly valid piece of the debate.
onetwofiveten 13y ago
Yeah, well, in the case of Game of Thrones, it's quite an important work of art and it's priced out of reach for the vast majority of the public. Owning an important work of art could be argued to be a bit like having a monopoly on a utility. That might not sound compelling, but there the case for copyright protections isn't that compelling either. Copyright is supposed to be a beneficial exchange, where the public accept restrictions on their freedoms in order to encourage the creation of art. If the art created isn't being disseminated to the public, then what's the point? There's nothing moral about artificially propping up one particular business model.
- forrestthewoods 13y ago
  hahaha
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    I can't imagine why people chuckle when someone cries, "You're infringing on my copyright!" Copyright is an artificial construct, as antiquated as the buggy whip. Those who make their living around it should investigate other plans.
    - forrestthewoods 13y ago
      The set of people whose living is built around copyright includes all software developers. If it weren't for the GPL we wouldn't even have Linux as it exists today because the GPL is only possible because of copyright protection. Hell, the only reason the site upon which we are commenting exists is because of the financial incentives enabling the industry for which YC seeks to invest! I'm quite happy with my career, but thanks for the suggestion.
      - waterlesscloud 13y ago
        This is the same crowd that gets out the torches and pitchforks when one website uses CSS that looks kinda like another website.
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Jare 13y ago

There are in fact acceptable levels of relativity in the morality of acts (otherwise we couldn't have laws), so yeah, it can certainly be fair cause. Now, you may believe that this moral justification is nothing more than an argument and the real justification for pirating a show is "because I am greedy, screw the authors"; however, this applies almost exactly to media conglomerates and their pro-copyright lobbying and protectionist activities. So, all in all, this is a small but perfectly valid piece of the debate.

onetwofiveten 13y ago

Yeah, well, in the case of Game of Thrones, it's quite an important work of art and it's priced out of reach for the vast majority of the public. Owning an important work of art could be argued to be a bit like having a monopoly on a utility. That might not sound compelling, but there the case for copyright protections isn't that compelling either. Copyright is supposed to be a beneficial exchange, where the public accept restrictions on their freedoms in order to encourage the creation of art. If the art created isn't being disseminated to the public, then what's the point? There's nothing moral about artificially propping up one particular business model.

forrestthewoods 13y ago
hahaha
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  I can't imagine why people chuckle when someone cries, "You're infringing on my copyright!" Copyright is an artificial construct, as antiquated as the buggy whip. Those who make their living around it should investigate other plans.
  - forrestthewoods 13y ago
    The set of people whose living is built around copyright includes all software developers. If it weren't for the GPL we wouldn't even have Linux as it exists today because the GPL is only possible because of copyright protection. Hell, the only reason the site upon which we are commenting exists is because of the financial incentives enabling the industry for which YC seeks to invest! I'm quite happy with my career, but thanks for the suggestion.
    - waterlesscloud 13y ago
      This is the same crowd that gets out the torches and pitchforks when one website uses CSS that looks kinda like another website.

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