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"Now Siri knows when to stop listening." I find this to be some really interesting marketing spin for "Siri doesn't always know when to stop listening, so now

"Now Siri knows when to stop listening." I find this to be some really interesting marketing spin for "Siri doesn't always know when to stop listening, so now you can tell it". IE Now your car knows when to slow down Manually control the speed of your car by pressing the brake pedal

gumby 13y ago
Funny, I read it the opposite way: as a wry and pithy way to say "FINALLY goddamned Siri doesn't just hang around and try to parse noise, which has been annoying all of us at Apple as well for ages." Not that one or the other of us is "right" it's just funny that a short sentence can be read many different ways.
- smackfu 13y ago
  Yeah, but they didn't fix that problem, they just made a way to override it.
  - roc 13y ago
    It sounds like they changed the UX entirely. Sure, that's not the same as solving the technical problem of "when to stop listening". But it's solving the user problem of "it doesn't know when to stop listening". And it's not some explicit additional button you have to press to override any default behavior. It's implicit in the new method. Unless the former UX is still around and this is an additional, optional, pattern. But that seems ... not very Apple-like.
    - smackfu 13y ago
      "Manually control when Siri listens by holding down the home button while you speak and releasing it when you're done as an alternative to letting Siri automatically notice when you stop talking" Given that, it is very Apple-like, in that there is an "advanced" way to use it if you have an edge case, but you can continue doing it the old way if you don't care.
      - roc 13y ago
        I read it as: hold-to-Siri is just "the way" to use Siri now. If hold-to-Siri is optional for power-users, advertising it like that doesn't feel Apple-like. Having it seems fine; Apple does that plenty. But advertising a power user option? That's new-to-me.
  - swasheck 13y ago
    babysteps

gumby 13y ago

Funny, I read it the opposite way: as a wry and pithy way to say "FINALLY goddamned Siri doesn't just hang around and try to parse noise, which has been annoying all of us at Apple as well for ages." Not that one or the other of us is "right" it's just funny that a short sentence can be read many different ways.

smackfu 13y ago
Yeah, but they didn't fix that problem, they just made a way to override it.
- roc 13y ago
  It sounds like they changed the UX entirely. Sure, that's not the same as solving the technical problem of "when to stop listening". But it's solving the user problem of "it doesn't know when to stop listening". And it's not some explicit additional button you have to press to override any default behavior. It's implicit in the new method. Unless the former UX is still around and this is an additional, optional, pattern. But that seems ... not very Apple-like.
  - smackfu 13y ago
    "Manually control when Siri listens by holding down the home button while you speak and releasing it when you're done as an alternative to letting Siri automatically notice when you stop talking" Given that, it is very Apple-like, in that there is an "advanced" way to use it if you have an edge case, but you can continue doing it the old way if you don't care.
    - roc 13y ago
      I read it as: hold-to-Siri is just "the way" to use Siri now. If hold-to-Siri is optional for power-users, advertising it like that doesn't feel Apple-like. Having it seems fine; Apple does that plenty. But advertising a power user option? That's new-to-me.
- swasheck 13y ago
  babysteps