4 ms·

For those that aren't aware, there is a growing class of lead-generation startups which scrape websites and determine what services you're using. My guess is t

For those that aren't aware, there is a growing class of lead-generation startups which scrape websites and determine what services you're using. My guess is that the company that contacted you is using one of these (Stripe requires your public key in the head of your site and linking to their JS). BuiltWith is one such service: http://builtwith.com http://builtwith.com ... NerdyData & Datanyze also: http://nerdydata.com http://nerdydata.com, http://www.datanyze.com http://www.datanyze.com Subscribers use these tools to find people who are trying out competing services (they are not cheap, BTW). Often, if a site only recently added JS code–for example, say, KissMetrics–you can assume they are still in the trial period. That gives you a window of time to try and sell them on your competing product. Or, if you sell a special WordPress plugin, you can use these services to find WordPress sites. Stripe doesn't have a trial period per se, but its pretty easy to switch between the modern payment providers and if it was only recently installed, its safe to assume you don't have a lot of customers yet.

DerpJones 13y ago
Yea, http://NerdyData.com http://NerdyData.com offers an API for real-time webcrawling. They can find out each day who adds/removes certain codes. It's really interesting, I was part of their initial beta test program - cool stuff!
adamseabrook 13y ago
Based on the fact that he got the email 40 minutes after his query to Stripe I doubt any of these companies were involved. To do a crawl across a meaningful percentage of the Internet and refresh this every 24 hours is hard enough even if you only capture the front page. Very few sites include stripe.js in the source on the front page. So you would need to crawl deep enough into a site to hit the checkout page and capture stripe.js in the head section which is exponentially more difficult. Indexing your crawl and passing this off to a team to extract contact details and send it to a client so they can reach out all within 40 minutes I would say is nearly impossible. It is possible they already had his details but I cannot see anything on his site that would trigger a "likely to switch payment gateways" alert. My guess is this was completely random. A good sales rep will make 60-100 outbound calls per day along with a bunch of emails. Multiply this by the number of outbound sales reps in the payments market and you have a lot of sales activity.
noname123 13y ago
Ghostery my friend; and AdBlock Plus while we are at it. As someone who have worked in e-commerce, I'm keenly aware of the pixels that is "always watching you". So I don't want to be tracked and prefer that someone to be someone else.

DerpJones 13y ago

Yea, http://NerdyData.com http://NerdyData.com offers an API for real-time webcrawling. They can find out each day who adds/removes certain codes. It's really interesting, I was part of their initial beta test program - cool stuff!

adamseabrook 13y ago

Based on the fact that he got the email 40 minutes after his query to Stripe I doubt any of these companies were involved. To do a crawl across a meaningful percentage of the Internet and refresh this every 24 hours is hard enough even if you only capture the front page. Very few sites include stripe.js in the source on the front page. So you would need to crawl deep enough into a site to hit the checkout page and capture stripe.js in the head section which is exponentially more difficult. Indexing your crawl and passing this off to a team to extract contact details and send it to a client so they can reach out all within 40 minutes I would say is nearly impossible. It is possible they already had his details but I cannot see anything on his site that would trigger a "likely to switch payment gateways" alert. My guess is this was completely random. A good sales rep will make 60-100 outbound calls per day along with a bunch of emails. Multiply this by the number of outbound sales reps in the payments market and you have a lot of sales activity.

noname123 13y ago

Ghostery my friend; and AdBlock Plus while we are at it. As someone who have worked in e-commerce, I'm keenly aware of the pixels that is "always watching you". So I don't want to be tracked and prefer that someone to be someone else.