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Your assumptions are not very accurate at all. The job I just left we had moved to haskell precisely for growth. We had no problems hiring haskellers, or havi

by copergi 13y ago

Your assumptions are not very accurate at all. The job I just left we had moved to haskell precisely for growth. We had no problems hiring haskellers, or having our existing PHP devs learn haskell. The new job I took is getting tons of applications from experienced haskellers. There's tons of people who know haskell and don't get to use it at work. They are generally quite eager to fix that problem.

seddona 13y ago
Can you mention the company? We're interested in using Haskell and I'm looking for reference experiences, particularly use in startups.
MetaCosm 13y ago
cough bullshit cough I meant it in good humor, but over the last 15 years, I have had the joy (and pain) of getting to ship production systems in a lot of less popular stacks including: Erlang (multiple), Eiffel, Haskell, and OCaml. Hiring and training for these less popular stacks has been a goddamn nightmare in "win" conditions. You have the benefit of the better signal to noise ratio in resumes, absolutely. But, you pay for that in rarity, salary and job demands, which is fine as long as you go in eyes wide open and plan to have a small team (under 10). Rapid team growth (from money injection, or simply success and need) is really, really hard when you don't have a large pool of qualified candidates to pull from... and training, I honestly can't fathom trying to train PHP developers in Haskell. If you company has done this successfully, please setup a newsletter, I would subscribe.
- copergi 13y ago
  >But, you pay for that in rarity, salary and job demands Quite the opposite. As I said, there are a lot of people who know haskell but don't get to use it in their job. There's tons of people applying for haskell jobs at $50-60k/year. Being able to use haskell is a big enough draw in and of itself. >If you company has done this successfully, please setup a newsletter, I would subscribe. There would be nothing to go in it. Haskell is not particularly difficult to learn. People can get up and running doing web development very quickly, without any significant changes to how they normally do things since you don't do much destructive updating in most web apps anyways.

by copergi 13y ago

seddona 13y ago

Can you mention the company? We're interested in using Haskell and I'm looking for reference experiences, particularly use in startups.

MetaCosm 13y ago

cough bullshit cough I meant it in good humor, but over the last 15 years, I have had the joy (and pain) of getting to ship production systems in a lot of less popular stacks including: Erlang (multiple), Eiffel, Haskell, and OCaml. Hiring and training for these less popular stacks has been a goddamn nightmare in "win" conditions. You have the benefit of the better signal to noise ratio in resumes, absolutely. But, you pay for that in rarity, salary and job demands, which is fine as long as you go in eyes wide open and plan to have a small team (under 10). Rapid team growth (from money injection, or simply success and need) is really, really hard when you don't have a large pool of qualified candidates to pull from... and training, I honestly can't fathom trying to train PHP developers in Haskell. If you company has done this successfully, please setup a newsletter, I would subscribe.

copergi 13y ago
>But, you pay for that in rarity, salary and job demands Quite the opposite. As I said, there are a lot of people who know haskell but don't get to use it in their job. There's tons of people applying for haskell jobs at $50-60k/year. Being able to use haskell is a big enough draw in and of itself. >If you company has done this successfully, please setup a newsletter, I would subscribe. There would be nothing to go in it. Haskell is not particularly difficult to learn. People can get up and running doing web development very quickly, without any significant changes to how they normally do things since you don't do much destructive updating in most web apps anyways.