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Cosmos: debuts tonight 9/8c on Fox

28 points by nairteashop 13y ago

wozniacki 13y ago
President Obama is expected to introduce the series! http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-ms-cosmos-fox-president-obama-seth-macfarlane-tyson-20140308,0,5265363.story#axzz2vQZjk5hk http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-ms... Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about his redux of the famous Carl Sagan series and why science and science literacy matter in a democracy, with Bill Moyers on Moyers & Company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3G2ezt9R0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3G2ezt9R0
javert 13y ago
Apparently Obama is giving an introduction. As a scientist, I completely reject this politicization of science. I do not agree that the Democrats are a pro-science, pro-reason party and I reject their attempt to portray themselves as such by latching on to scientists. I will not be tuning in. I don't know who is producing this, but involving the President is a breach of integrity.
- danmaz74 13y ago
  You're confusing institutions with partisanship.
  - javert 13y ago
    Nope. The President is inherently political and this is politically calculated. Anyone who doesn't realize that is a fool. That said, I'm not sure what the "institution" you are referring to is, that word could refer to several different things in this context.
    - mikhailt 13y ago
      No, it isn't, I haven't seen it. Can you tell me how you got a preview of the show and decided that it was political? President Obama is a human being who happens to like science. He also was involved in an episode of Mythbusters about a myth he'd like the guys to test and I thought it was awesome. Jamie actually was honored to do it and you could see it in his face.
    - danmaz74 13y ago
      "Anyone who doesn't realize that is a fool." I really like your approach to science :D
- mikhailt 13y ago
  A breach of integrity? What the F*$)? It's just the president introducing the show, we don't know what he plans to say but until we do, we should not be holding any opinions nor should we bringing up the accusation that this is a politicization of science. IMO, you have offended yourself as a scientist by being closed minded and accusing/assuming crap without analyzing the facts first.
  - javert 13y ago
    > we should not be holding any opinions nor should we bringing up the accusation that this is a politicization of science. How many years of this president would it take before you accumulated enough evidence to reach a conclusion about him? To give him the benefit of the doubt after this many years is simply willful ignorance.
    - mikhailt 13y ago
      I'm not giving anybody any benefits of the doubt nor am I giving any conclusion about anything. As a person of science, I do not judge or make any conclusion without actually trying it myself in person. I don't care about the president. This whole thing is about a potential important science show and you're attacking it because of some few minutes of introduction from the most important man in the country. The president may be doing the show a favor to bring in more viewers. Without viewers, the show will fail. The president giving the introduction HAS NO IMPACT of how I'm going to feel about the actual show itself. You know why? Because I'll base my opinion AFTER I watch it, NOT BEFORE. You're accusing the show of lacking of integrity and won't watch it because some guy is introducing the show, rather than actually watching the show first and then come up with your own opinion, which will then be more of a solid foundation. If the show and the introduction made me feel like it was bastardized by politics, then I will be happy with agree with you. I just can't agree with you without watching this in the first place.
      - javert 13y ago
        If it were Pat Robertson (evangelical Christian leader) introducting the show, would you say the same thing? What if it were Hitler? It would not matter if either of those figures appeared to perfectly espoused science for a few minutes; it does not erase who they are. The same is true for Obama. This is a man who is adamantly and explicitly opposed to the founding principles of America, including legislative and constitutional restraint on his power (see his "selective enforcement" of Obamacare, for example). This is a man who is creating a two-tiered healthcare system: one for the very rich and one for everyone else. This is a man who blocked the Keystone pipeline. (Can someone be pro-science but against the industrial development and improvement of the country? Answer: No.) And I could go on and on. He is extremely politicized, literally 1/2 of the country hates living under his rule, and he has no business being allowed anywhere near science.
- maxerickson 13y ago
  Seth MacFarlane is one of the producers. He has made big donations to Democrats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_MacFarlane#Political_views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_MacFarlane#Political_views Ooga Booga!
- rickhanlonii 13y ago
  Apparently, he is. As a science enthusiast, I completely accept this. I don't care if the president is Republican or Democrat; I don't care if this is Obama just trying to improve his images; I don't care about the politics of this; introducing this program is good for science education. A breach of integrity? You're talking like the DNC produced the show. At worst they reached out to FOX and offered TV time with the President, which FOX tripped over themselves to agree to. Why can't this just be the President recognizing that our science literacy is falling and offering a small gesture to increase science awareness by introducing the most anticipated science TV program of all time? It seems a lot like you care more about the politics than how this helps science education.
- gverri 13y ago
  You're rejecting the show without even watching it because the president of US (aka the most important man in the world) is giving it an intro... You call yourself a scientist... And you say that the reason you're not watching it is because of politicization of science... Yeah, very rational indeed...
  - javert 13y ago
    I don't see any contradiction, and if there is one, you haven't pointed it out. So as far as I can tell, your attempt to take the moral high ground here is pure pretense.
    - gverri 13y ago
      You're judging something without facts based on pure politics. And you blame the show for being influenced by politics. You're doing exactly what you're against of, and you don't even notice it. If that's not obvious I don't know what else is.
madengr 13y ago
Can the faux news veiwership handle that the earth is not 6000 years old? Or is this the work of the devil?
geetee 13y ago
I really hope this isn't an overproduced mess. I look at how Fox makes Gordon Ramsey look like the ultimate asshole, and hope it doesn't happen to Tyson.
- maxerickson 13y ago
  Ramsey makes it pretty easy. I don't think Tyson really needs the project, and at least Seth MacFarlane (one of the producers) is coming at it from a perspective of really having enjoyed Sagan's work.
- wozniacki 13y ago
  True. Tyson is joyously authentic as his natural self. Tyson on Carl Sagan's influence, on his formative years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqrN3Bfro8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqrN3Bfro8 Tyson Defending the U.S. Space Program and the innovation it birthed, on Real Time with Bill Maher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXPyAafQvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXPyAafQvA Tyson on the dysfunction of the U.S. Congress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HWGihz0UGg#t=134 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HWGihz0UGg#t=134
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mdf 13y ago
For those of you who don't know what 9/8c means (I didn't), it's 21:00 Eastern Time or 20:00 Central Time.
hypertexthero 13y ago
Good news, but please [do watch the original series](http://hypertexthero.com/logbook/2014/03/cosmos/ http://hypertexthero.com/logbook/2014/03/cosmos/) if you haven't yet.
brg 13y ago
Reading the description of today's episodes, they are revisiting the Cosmic Calendar and discussing the immense age of the universe. However this was also the first episode of Sagan's Cosmos. Is this a shot for shot remake with better graphics? Or is this something new and only inspired by the previous show?

28 points by nairteashop 13y ago

President Obama is expected to introduce the series! http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-ms-cosmos-fox-president-obama-seth-macfarlane-tyson-20140308,0,5265363.story#axzz2vQZjk5hk http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-ms... Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about his redux of the famous Carl Sagan series and why science and science literacy matter in a democracy, with Bill Moyers on Moyers & Company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3G2ezt9R0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3G2ezt9R0

javert 13y ago

Apparently Obama is giving an introduction. As a scientist, I completely reject this politicization of science. I do not agree that the Democrats are a pro-science, pro-reason party and I reject their attempt to portray themselves as such by latching on to scientists. I will not be tuning in. I don't know who is producing this, but involving the President is a breach of integrity.

danmaz74 13y ago
You're confusing institutions with partisanship.
- javert 13y ago
  Nope. The President is inherently political and this is politically calculated. Anyone who doesn't realize that is a fool. That said, I'm not sure what the "institution" you are referring to is, that word could refer to several different things in this context.
  - mikhailt 13y ago
    No, it isn't, I haven't seen it. Can you tell me how you got a preview of the show and decided that it was political? President Obama is a human being who happens to like science. He also was involved in an episode of Mythbusters about a myth he'd like the guys to test and I thought it was awesome. Jamie actually was honored to do it and you could see it in his face.
  - danmaz74 13y ago
    "Anyone who doesn't realize that is a fool." I really like your approach to science :D
mikhailt 13y ago
A breach of integrity? What the F*$)? It's just the president introducing the show, we don't know what he plans to say but until we do, we should not be holding any opinions nor should we bringing up the accusation that this is a politicization of science. IMO, you have offended yourself as a scientist by being closed minded and accusing/assuming crap without analyzing the facts first.
- javert 13y ago
  > we should not be holding any opinions nor should we bringing up the accusation that this is a politicization of science. How many years of this president would it take before you accumulated enough evidence to reach a conclusion about him? To give him the benefit of the doubt after this many years is simply willful ignorance.
  - mikhailt 13y ago
    I'm not giving anybody any benefits of the doubt nor am I giving any conclusion about anything. As a person of science, I do not judge or make any conclusion without actually trying it myself in person. I don't care about the president. This whole thing is about a potential important science show and you're attacking it because of some few minutes of introduction from the most important man in the country. The president may be doing the show a favor to bring in more viewers. Without viewers, the show will fail. The president giving the introduction HAS NO IMPACT of how I'm going to feel about the actual show itself. You know why? Because I'll base my opinion AFTER I watch it, NOT BEFORE. You're accusing the show of lacking of integrity and won't watch it because some guy is introducing the show, rather than actually watching the show first and then come up with your own opinion, which will then be more of a solid foundation. If the show and the introduction made me feel like it was bastardized by politics, then I will be happy with agree with you. I just can't agree with you without watching this in the first place.
    - javert 13y ago
      If it were Pat Robertson (evangelical Christian leader) introducting the show, would you say the same thing? What if it were Hitler? It would not matter if either of those figures appeared to perfectly espoused science for a few minutes; it does not erase who they are. The same is true for Obama. This is a man who is adamantly and explicitly opposed to the founding principles of America, including legislative and constitutional restraint on his power (see his "selective enforcement" of Obamacare, for example). This is a man who is creating a two-tiered healthcare system: one for the very rich and one for everyone else. This is a man who blocked the Keystone pipeline. (Can someone be pro-science but against the industrial development and improvement of the country? Answer: No.) And I could go on and on. He is extremely politicized, literally 1/2 of the country hates living under his rule, and he has no business being allowed anywhere near science.
maxerickson 13y ago
Seth MacFarlane is one of the producers. He has made big donations to Democrats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_MacFarlane#Political_views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_MacFarlane#Political_views Ooga Booga!
rickhanlonii 13y ago
Apparently, he is. As a science enthusiast, I completely accept this. I don't care if the president is Republican or Democrat; I don't care if this is Obama just trying to improve his images; I don't care about the politics of this; introducing this program is good for science education. A breach of integrity? You're talking like the DNC produced the show. At worst they reached out to FOX and offered TV time with the President, which FOX tripped over themselves to agree to. Why can't this just be the President recognizing that our science literacy is falling and offering a small gesture to increase science awareness by introducing the most anticipated science TV program of all time? It seems a lot like you care more about the politics than how this helps science education.
gverri 13y ago
You're rejecting the show without even watching it because the president of US (aka the most important man in the world) is giving it an intro... You call yourself a scientist... And you say that the reason you're not watching it is because of politicization of science... Yeah, very rational indeed...
- javert 13y ago
  I don't see any contradiction, and if there is one, you haven't pointed it out. So as far as I can tell, your attempt to take the moral high ground here is pure pretense.
  - gverri 13y ago
    You're judging something without facts based on pure politics. And you blame the show for being influenced by politics. You're doing exactly what you're against of, and you don't even notice it. If that's not obvious I don't know what else is.

madengr 13y ago

Can the faux news veiwership handle that the earth is not 6000 years old? Or is this the work of the devil?

geetee 13y ago

I really hope this isn't an overproduced mess. I look at how Fox makes Gordon Ramsey look like the ultimate asshole, and hope it doesn't happen to Tyson.

maxerickson 13y ago
Ramsey makes it pretty easy. I don't think Tyson really needs the project, and at least Seth MacFarlane (one of the producers) is coming at it from a perspective of really having enjoyed Sagan's work.
wozniacki 13y ago
True. Tyson is joyously authentic as his natural self. Tyson on Carl Sagan's influence, on his formative years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqrN3Bfro8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeqrN3Bfro8 Tyson Defending the U.S. Space Program and the innovation it birthed, on Real Time with Bill Maher. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXPyAafQvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXPyAafQvA Tyson on the dysfunction of the U.S. Congress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HWGihz0UGg#t=134 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HWGihz0UGg#t=134

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mdf 13y ago

For those of you who don't know what 9/8c means (I didn't), it's 21:00 Eastern Time or 20:00 Central Time.

hypertexthero 13y ago

Good news, but please [do watch the original series](http://hypertexthero.com/logbook/2014/03/cosmos/ http://hypertexthero.com/logbook/2014/03/cosmos/) if you haven't yet.

brg 13y ago

Reading the description of today's episodes, they are revisiting the Cosmic Calendar and discussing the immense age of the universe. However this was also the first episode of Sagan's Cosmos. Is this a shot for shot remake with better graphics? Or is this something new and only inspired by the previous show?