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Yes you are right. You know us crazy Americans. My apologies for the misspelling! The chess variant is typically spelled with one 's': http://en.wikipedia.o
by binarymax 13y ago
Yes you are right. You know us crazy Americans. My apologies for the misspelling! The chess variant is typically spelled with one 's':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegspiel_(chess) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegspiel_(chess)
- Perseids 13y agoDoes anybody know the etymology of "Kriegspiel"? All I find are references to "Kriegsspiel" but nobody explains where the 's' went. Was it just a misspelling by those who popularized it?
- philsnow 13y agoIt's a lot harder (for me) to say Kriegsspiel than (the incorrect) Kriegspiel, because the first 's' is voiced (IPA /z/) and the 'sp' is unvoiced[0]. I'm not saying that's why this alternate spelling has arisen, but it could be a transcription of a mispronunciation. [0] IPA /ʃp/ rather than /sp/ because initial 'sp' in german is pronounced that way. I don't know if this rule has a name... "post-alveolarization"?
- Perseids 13y agoNo no, actually the first s is /s/ i.e. voiceless as in "sea" or "pass", so the complete transcription should be /kʀiːksʃpiːl/. The transition between the /s/ and /ʃ/ is then just making your lips round for the /ʃ/ after the wide and flat /s/. It is still not as easy as just leaving it out, but it is whole lot more doable.
- philsnow 13y agoI must be extremely out of practice with German :\ I definitely thought that the 'g' in 'Krieg' was /k/ but the 'g' in 'Kriegs' was /g/.