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Ask HN: How can I sure my blog will live after I dead, forever?

11 points by mtufekyapan 13y ago

Is there any service provide my blog and post will live forever after I dead? How it can be done? Is there any solution?

charliepinto 13y ago
www.posthaven.com
- garry 13y ago
  Thanks Charlie! Posthaven cofounder here. In the short term we will run your blog go $5 a month. We've taken a pledge not to get acquired and to run it for as long as possible. Right now we are building it out but in the future as we grow we would like to make a foundation that will fund it in perpetuity out of the profits. The site is profitable and self sustaining now. Definitely a work in progress but a blog that lives forever is our goal.
  - mtufekyapan 13y ago
    Garry, in your service provide forever living?
    - noname123 13y ago
      From their FAQ: What happens if I stop paying? Permanent URLs are a powerful idea, and it's a feature of using Posthaven we think you should get even if you stop paying. We'll keep the site online, but you won't be able to edit content or add to it. If you want to renew, start paying again and your account will be restored. When will something qualify for permanent storage? Let's keep it simple initially: If you pay for a year's worth of service, your content is safe and we'll keep it online.
      - mtufekyapan 13y ago
        Thank you man!
- pdx 13y ago
  Gotta say, not liking posthaven's chances of keeping my posts online forever... clickable: http://posthaven.com/ http://posthaven.com/ NOTICE: This domain name expired on 3/9/2014 and is pending renewal or deletion.
anigbrowl 13y ago
Write something worth reading, then let other people worry about preserving it.
- mtufekyapan 13y ago
  I don't agree with you. You can't know which post how effect for someone life. This isn't realistic point of view.
  - anigbrowl 13y ago
    Well I guess it's safer not to write anything then.
    - mtufekyapan 13y ago
      :) You are really funny.
jordsmi 13y ago
I don't really think you can guarantee for it to live forever unless you are paying someone to do this service for you. If you are just hosting it on a big site like tumblr you can hope that it stays up, but you never know if something will happen where they go under.
- mtufekyapan 13y ago
  I can pay for it totally and it can be show some ads, and can be collect donation. I imagine it more than a community.
phantom_oracle 13y ago
Wouldn't the Internet Archive have it stored? See what the Archive says and perhaps if you get your licensing right, your blog will live on long after you've left the world.
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  Yes. If its publicly accessible and your robots.txt file doesn't block the archive's crawler, it'll live on forever in the wayback machine. Disclaimer: ArchiveTeam contributor.
  - mtufekyapan 13y ago
    Yes but in this case, people try to find it in archive. When I first write, I think about how my blog site up and post accesible.
    - phantom_oracle 13y ago
      Well if you want it to live on long after you are gone and on the original blog, then you should host it on some free blogging platform like Wordpress.com (their hosted option) or Blogger/blogspot or Tumblr (or some other option)
Snail_Commando 13y ago
It might be a few years too early for this to be an easily accessible option, but if you are worried about mega-term storage you can encode your text in DNA. If stored properly, this method is far more persistent than magnetic plate or (current) solid state storage. This will potentially preserve the information for millions of years. Plus, you'll save on hosting.
- mtufekyapan 13y ago
  It is really amazing idea I ever heard. Great! :)
- TophWells 13y ago
  >This will potentially preserve the information for millions of years. Not true. Outside the body, DNA has a half-life of about 500 years. If you want your writing to last for millions of years, carve some stone tablets.
  - Snail_Commando 13y ago
    > Outside the body, DNA has a half-life of about 500 years. Who said it had to be stored outside the body? :) You could create a modified copy of an organism's genome with the information inserted. But let's assume we mean outside the body storage: The ~500 year number is an estimate based on the half-lives of DNA found in paleontological discoveries. Of course, since these samples were discovered in nature- no effort was made to prevent degradation over the post-death timeline. Some estimates say that a DNA strand could still retain useful information for as much as 1.5 million years.[1] We have amplified and sequenced information preserved in nature for 80,000 years.[2] That half-life estimate is based on samples that were not always in solid state, which is an empirically more stable preservation state for DNA. Specifically, the samples were usually not protected from water and oxygen throughout the entire storage period. It is important to keep in mind that despite the observed half-life of DNA (which is still far longer than any existing/practical high density storage medium), it still retains useful information as it degrades for thousands (theoretically, millions) of years. Also, you won't be storing the information on just a single strand, but on billions of strands. This redundancy affords you the ability to reliably amplify and sequence different non-degraded segments after many half-lives. Notice that I said "...if stored properly...", granted, I wasn't clear, but it is certainly theoretically possible to preserve information for millions of years in DNA. DNA is already the highest density storage medium that we use to store human produced information, such as a book. [3] Right now with current storage methods (room temp, dehydrated) we have an archival storage medium reliable for thousands of years. If we can crack two things: extremely high speed sequencing, and ultra-long term solid state storage of DNA; it will be the ultimate high density long term storage medium short of sculpting code into metal at the atomic scale. [1] http://www.npr.org/2013/01/24/170082404/shall-i-encode-thee-in-dna-sonnets-stored-on-double-helix http://www.npr.org/2013/01/24/170082404/shall-i-encode-thee-... [2] http://www.nature.com/news/dna-has-a-521-year-half-life-1.11555 http://www.nature.com/news/dna-has-a-521-year-half-life-1.11... [3] http://arep.med.harvard.edu/pdf/Church_Science_12.pdf http://arep.med.harvard.edu/pdf/Church_Science_12.pdf
arithma 13y ago
You can encode it in the Bitcoin blockchain. Lots of people will not like what you've done. You can also try to get it in some popular torrent, and have it live off with as many people as possible.

11 points by mtufekyapan 13y ago

Is there any service provide my blog and post will live forever after I dead? How it can be done? Is there any solution?

charliepinto 13y ago

www.posthaven.com

garry 13y ago
Thanks Charlie! Posthaven cofounder here. In the short term we will run your blog go $5 a month. We've taken a pledge not to get acquired and to run it for as long as possible. Right now we are building it out but in the future as we grow we would like to make a foundation that will fund it in perpetuity out of the profits. The site is profitable and self sustaining now. Definitely a work in progress but a blog that lives forever is our goal.
- mtufekyapan 13y ago
  Garry, in your service provide forever living?
  - noname123 13y ago
    From their FAQ: What happens if I stop paying? Permanent URLs are a powerful idea, and it's a feature of using Posthaven we think you should get even if you stop paying. We'll keep the site online, but you won't be able to edit content or add to it. If you want to renew, start paying again and your account will be restored. When will something qualify for permanent storage? Let's keep it simple initially: If you pay for a year's worth of service, your content is safe and we'll keep it online.
    - mtufekyapan 13y ago
      Thank you man!
pdx 13y ago
Gotta say, not liking posthaven's chances of keeping my posts online forever... clickable: http://posthaven.com/ http://posthaven.com/ NOTICE: This domain name expired on 3/9/2014 and is pending renewal or deletion.

anigbrowl 13y ago

Write something worth reading, then let other people worry about preserving it.

mtufekyapan 13y ago
I don't agree with you. You can't know which post how effect for someone life. This isn't realistic point of view.
- anigbrowl 13y ago
  Well I guess it's safer not to write anything then.
  - mtufekyapan 13y ago
    :) You are really funny.

jordsmi 13y ago

I don't really think you can guarantee for it to live forever unless you are paying someone to do this service for you. If you are just hosting it on a big site like tumblr you can hope that it stays up, but you never know if something will happen where they go under.

mtufekyapan 13y ago
I can pay for it totally and it can be show some ads, and can be collect donation. I imagine it more than a community.

phantom_oracle 13y ago

Wouldn't the Internet Archive have it stored? See what the Archive says and perhaps if you get your licensing right, your blog will live on long after you've left the world.

toomuchtodo 13y ago
Yes. If its publicly accessible and your robots.txt file doesn't block the archive's crawler, it'll live on forever in the wayback machine. Disclaimer: ArchiveTeam contributor.
- mtufekyapan 13y ago
  Yes but in this case, people try to find it in archive. When I first write, I think about how my blog site up and post accesible.
  - phantom_oracle 13y ago
    Well if you want it to live on long after you are gone and on the original blog, then you should host it on some free blogging platform like Wordpress.com (their hosted option) or Blogger/blogspot or Tumblr (or some other option)

Snail_Commando 13y ago

It might be a few years too early for this to be an easily accessible option, but if you are worried about mega-term storage you can encode your text in DNA. If stored properly, this method is far more persistent than magnetic plate or (current) solid state storage. This will potentially preserve the information for millions of years. Plus, you'll save on hosting.

mtufekyapan 13y ago
It is really amazing idea I ever heard. Great! :)
TophWells 13y ago
>This will potentially preserve the information for millions of years. Not true. Outside the body, DNA has a half-life of about 500 years. If you want your writing to last for millions of years, carve some stone tablets.
- Snail_Commando 13y ago
  > Outside the body, DNA has a half-life of about 500 years. Who said it had to be stored outside the body? :) You could create a modified copy of an organism's genome with the information inserted. But let's assume we mean outside the body storage: The ~500 year number is an estimate based on the half-lives of DNA found in paleontological discoveries. Of course, since these samples were discovered in nature- no effort was made to prevent degradation over the post-death timeline. Some estimates say that a DNA strand could still retain useful information for as much as 1.5 million years.[1] We have amplified and sequenced information preserved in nature for 80,000 years.[2] That half-life estimate is based on samples that were not always in solid state, which is an empirically more stable preservation state for DNA. Specifically, the samples were usually not protected from water and oxygen throughout the entire storage period. It is important to keep in mind that despite the observed half-life of DNA (which is still far longer than any existing/practical high density storage medium), it still retains useful information as it degrades for thousands (theoretically, millions) of years. Also, you won't be storing the information on just a single strand, but on billions of strands. This redundancy affords you the ability to reliably amplify and sequence different non-degraded segments after many half-lives. Notice that I said "...if stored properly...", granted, I wasn't clear, but it is certainly theoretically possible to preserve information for millions of years in DNA. DNA is already the highest density storage medium that we use to store human produced information, such as a book. [3] Right now with current storage methods (room temp, dehydrated) we have an archival storage medium reliable for thousands of years. If we can crack two things: extremely high speed sequencing, and ultra-long term solid state storage of DNA; it will be the ultimate high density long term storage medium short of sculpting code into metal at the atomic scale. [1] http://www.npr.org/2013/01/24/170082404/shall-i-encode-thee-in-dna-sonnets-stored-on-double-helix http://www.npr.org/2013/01/24/170082404/shall-i-encode-thee-... [2] http://www.nature.com/news/dna-has-a-521-year-half-life-1.11555 http://www.nature.com/news/dna-has-a-521-year-half-life-1.11... [3] http://arep.med.harvard.edu/pdf/Church_Science_12.pdf http://arep.med.harvard.edu/pdf/Church_Science_12.pdf

arithma 13y ago

You can encode it in the Bitcoin blockchain. Lots of people will not like what you've done. You can also try to get it in some popular torrent, and have it live off with as many people as possible.