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It's easy to take good hardware design for granted. Suddenly that Das Keyboard I've been eyeing doesn't look so expensive...

salgernon 13y ago
Beds and keyboards are deserving of discrimination. Personally, I adore my das keyboards.
- gggggggg 13y ago
  http://www.daskeyboard.com/ http://www.daskeyboard.com/ All keyboards should have a couple of USB ports built in, that's a great idea.
  - micampe 13y ago
    Welcome to 1998 :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_USB_Keyboard_B.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_USB_Keyboard_B.jpg
    - leoc 13y ago
      And this was continuing the practise of Apple's previous Apple Desktop Bus keyboards (like the beloved M0116 http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Standard_Keyboard http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Standard_Keyboard ) which had ADB ports on both sides, mainly so that you could daisy-chain the mouse onto the keyboard. It's really dismal that this hasn't become standard on USB keyboards.
      - flomo 13y ago
        The extended AT layout one always seemed to be more beloved: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard Back then Macintoshes were advertised as "keyboard not included" so Apple got to soak you for a very well-engineered item.
        leoc 13y ago
        > The extended AT layout one always seemed to be more beloved Perhaps: M0115 vs. M0116 is probably the quintessential AT vs. compact layout conflict, though, so I'm sure there were plenty of supporters on either side. I also assume that the compact M0116 actually sold significantly more, as I've almost never seen an extended keyboard used with a non-modular Mac like the SE or Classic. The M0115 was consciously part of the Macintosh II revolution (or counter-revolution?): SJ was famously among the people who presumably preferred the M0116 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/841771 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/841771 .
esw 13y ago
Be advised that the Das is no longer being made by Costar. They've moved to an unnamed OEM in China, and most people feel that the new keyboards aren't as nice. There are lots of other good mechanical keyboards out there, though - Filco, WASD, etc. I have a WASD and I love it.
SloopJon 13y ago
I picked up a Max Keyboard Blackbird during a recent sale. It's the only tenkeyless mechanical keyboard I could find with a built-in USB hub. The backlight is a nice bonus. The keyboard defaults to 6KRO. When I set it to NKRO (over USB), the OS X keyboard viewer showed as many keys as I could hold down. However, it no longer recognized the Caps Lock key as Control, as mapped in the System Preferences.

salgernon 13y ago

Beds and keyboards are deserving of discrimination. Personally, I adore my das keyboards.

gggggggg 13y ago
http://www.daskeyboard.com/ http://www.daskeyboard.com/ All keyboards should have a couple of USB ports built in, that's a great idea.
- micampe 13y ago
  Welcome to 1998 :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_USB_Keyboard_B.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_USB_Keyboard_B.jpg
  - leoc 13y ago
    And this was continuing the practise of Apple's previous Apple Desktop Bus keyboards (like the beloved M0116 http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Standard_Keyboard http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Standard_Keyboard ) which had ADB ports on both sides, mainly so that you could daisy-chain the mouse onto the keyboard. It's really dismal that this hasn't become standard on USB keyboards.
    - flomo 13y ago
      The extended AT layout one always seemed to be more beloved: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard Back then Macintoshes were advertised as "keyboard not included" so Apple got to soak you for a very well-engineered item.
      - leoc 13y ago
        > The extended AT layout one always seemed to be more beloved Perhaps: M0115 vs. M0116 is probably the quintessential AT vs. compact layout conflict, though, so I'm sure there were plenty of supporters on either side. I also assume that the compact M0116 actually sold significantly more, as I've almost never seen an extended keyboard used with a non-modular Mac like the SE or Classic. The M0115 was consciously part of the Macintosh II revolution (or counter-revolution?): SJ was famously among the people who presumably preferred the M0116 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/841771 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/841771 .

esw 13y ago

Be advised that the Das is no longer being made by Costar. They've moved to an unnamed OEM in China, and most people feel that the new keyboards aren't as nice. There are lots of other good mechanical keyboards out there, though - Filco, WASD, etc. I have a WASD and I love it.

SloopJon 13y ago

I picked up a Max Keyboard Blackbird during a recent sale. It's the only tenkeyless mechanical keyboard I could find with a built-in USB hub. The backlight is a nice bonus. The keyboard defaults to 6KRO. When I set it to NKRO (over USB), the OS X keyboard viewer showed as many keys as I could hold down. However, it no longer recognized the Caps Lock key as Control, as mapped in the System Preferences.