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I'm confused by all this. I find the drama interesting, but Newsweek quoted this: "I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says,

I'm confused by all this. I find the drama interesting, but Newsweek quoted this: "I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection." Did the reporter really lie about this statement? That seems like really a massive stretch, to me.

untog 13y ago
It's quite possible he was involved, but not the creator.
walden42 13y ago
It was a misunderstanding: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DENIAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-06-19-35-06 http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DE...
- danielnaab 13y ago
  I am as skeptical about media personalities as anyone else, but I find this explanation hard to swallow. I don't think I would misunderstand a statement like that from a non-native English speaker. In any case, I have no animosity towards the creator of Bitcoin, and I don't think that the original creator has any need for legal worries. But in the heat of the moment, it seems as if many people are mixing up these two separate ideas.
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ufmace 13y ago
The trouble with that statement is that, even if you believe it's a verbatim quote, it isn't clear exactly what he said that in response to. We're meant to assume that it's a response to something like "Are you the creator of Bitcoin?", but the fact that the question isn't part of the quote implies that it isn't that clear. This guy was involved in classified Government work at several companies, and the question could have been either about that, or vague enough that he could have misinterpreted it as being about that, especially if he had never heard of Bitcoin and had no idea what it was. The quotes are a little questionable too. How many people really believe that an average street cop in a small town in California would say "This is the guy who created Bitcoin? It looks like he's living a pretty humble life." It's entirely possible they've been massaged a bit to be shorter and more clear. It's not like there's a recording of the conversations, at least not that we have access to.
- Ryanmf 13y ago
  If that quote wasn't entirely fabricated, I suspect the officer was responding to a statement that identified Dorian as "Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin". Also, a minor nitpick: Temple City is part of a community that's directly adjacent to Los Angeles—people have heard of Bitcoin there.
- gamblor956 13y ago
  1) Temple City does not have a police force. It is part of LA County, and its officers are provided by the LA County Sheriff. 2) The LA County Sheriff definitely knows what Bitcoins are. LA is a major drug scene.
- aestra 13y ago
  I don't believe the quote in the article, but I believe a cop might have known about bitcoin. The reason being is they might have been briefed about it because of the silk road and its reputation as a drug currency.
epistasis 13y ago
There's absolutely no mention of BitCoin in that quote, the reporter merely implies that BitCoin is the referent by the context of the quote. Based on my interaction with reporters, it's not a stretch at all for the reporter to misunderstand a part of a conversation, and stick by their misinterpretation. This will happen even on things that could be fact-checked later. I think this strange quirk has something to do with not being influenced by their sources, but I can only guess why they engage in that recipe for inaccuracy.
fallinghawks 13y ago
Reporters misquote and put their personal or editorial spin on even the most trivial stuff. (Speaking from personal experience.)
- DannyBee 13y ago
  I can't upvote this hard enough. It's almost unfathomable how much of what is reported is deliberate misquotes or out of context statements unless you've dealt with reporters.
- Frqy3 13y ago
  Always make your own recording of any interview with reporters (with their knowledge of course).
- aestra 13y ago
  I know someone who is a reporter. She reported on something involving a mutual friend. She interviewed the mutual friend's boss. When she reported she misquoted the boss and even got the boss's name(!) completely wrong.

untog 13y ago

It's quite possible he was involved, but not the creator.

walden42 13y ago

It was a misunderstanding: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DENIAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-06-19-35-06 http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DE...

danielnaab 13y ago
I am as skeptical about media personalities as anyone else, but I find this explanation hard to swallow. I don't think I would misunderstand a statement like that from a non-native English speaker. In any case, I have no animosity towards the creator of Bitcoin, and I don't think that the original creator has any need for legal worries. But in the heat of the moment, it seems as if many people are mixing up these two separate ideas.

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ufmace 13y ago

The trouble with that statement is that, even if you believe it's a verbatim quote, it isn't clear exactly what he said that in response to. We're meant to assume that it's a response to something like "Are you the creator of Bitcoin?", but the fact that the question isn't part of the quote implies that it isn't that clear. This guy was involved in classified Government work at several companies, and the question could have been either about that, or vague enough that he could have misinterpreted it as being about that, especially if he had never heard of Bitcoin and had no idea what it was. The quotes are a little questionable too. How many people really believe that an average street cop in a small town in California would say "This is the guy who created Bitcoin? It looks like he's living a pretty humble life." It's entirely possible they've been massaged a bit to be shorter and more clear. It's not like there's a recording of the conversations, at least not that we have access to.

Ryanmf 13y ago
If that quote wasn't entirely fabricated, I suspect the officer was responding to a statement that identified Dorian as "Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin". Also, a minor nitpick: Temple City is part of a community that's directly adjacent to Los Angeles—people have heard of Bitcoin there.
gamblor956 13y ago
1) Temple City does not have a police force. It is part of LA County, and its officers are provided by the LA County Sheriff. 2) The LA County Sheriff definitely knows what Bitcoins are. LA is a major drug scene.
aestra 13y ago
I don't believe the quote in the article, but I believe a cop might have known about bitcoin. The reason being is they might have been briefed about it because of the silk road and its reputation as a drug currency.

epistasis 13y ago

There's absolutely no mention of BitCoin in that quote, the reporter merely implies that BitCoin is the referent by the context of the quote. Based on my interaction with reporters, it's not a stretch at all for the reporter to misunderstand a part of a conversation, and stick by their misinterpretation. This will happen even on things that could be fact-checked later. I think this strange quirk has something to do with not being influenced by their sources, but I can only guess why they engage in that recipe for inaccuracy.

fallinghawks 13y ago

Reporters misquote and put their personal or editorial spin on even the most trivial stuff. (Speaking from personal experience.)

DannyBee 13y ago
I can't upvote this hard enough. It's almost unfathomable how much of what is reported is deliberate misquotes or out of context statements unless you've dealt with reporters.
Frqy3 13y ago
Always make your own recording of any interview with reporters (with their knowledge of course).
aestra 13y ago
I know someone who is a reporter. She reported on something involving a mutual friend. She interviewed the mutual friend's boss. When she reported she misquoted the boss and even got the boss's name(!) completely wrong.