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I'm currently in a similar situation. I'm in New Zealand under a job search visa. I've been promised a full work visa so I'm sticking with it no matter how much

by navs 13y ago

I'm currently in a similar situation. I'm in New Zealand under a job search visa. I've been promised a full work visa so I'm sticking with it no matter how much I hate it. It's pretty hard finding a new job with my limited skills and my not being a local resident. I try and find the time to build up my skills which is already a source of much anxiety. I came from a LAMP background building websites as a freelancer before I went off to University to make it official. Coming out of Uni, it's like I'm starting from scratch. Go, Dart, a plethora of frontend tech. It's enough to make me insecure. I've become very frugal. Heck, I don't even have health insurance. I have a tiny shoebox apartment kitchen so stocking up and cooking is pretty difficult. I tend to wait for the supermarket deli to do its clearance in the evening. Half price off all sandwiches! I've also been diagnosed with chronic depression so it's not like things were so great even before the job. This leads me to what the author said on 'Changing your environment'. I've developed a lot of bad habits and while I've attempted CBT, a lot of the time I just go back into that cesspool of depression, of eating copious amounts of terrible food, sleeping all day and putting off all work. I could have a better job and still end up the same way, I'm aware of that possibility. Another thing that I keep telling myself is this is a job, it's work. It was never meant to be fun and games.

mattmanser 13y ago
No-one uses Go in the real world. And Dart is used even less than that. As for the rest of it, you've just entered the most in demand profession on the planet, you've got a degree in it and already have prior experience. You've got a lot to be hopeful (and proud) about. Build relationships and you will find work to love, not endure.
- philsnow 13y ago
  > No-one uses Go in the real world. YouTube uses Go for some very high-qps and mission-critical stuff. https://github.com/youtube/vitess https://github.com/youtube/vitess is in Go and sits on top of YouTube's MySQL databases. There are other as-yet-not-open-sourced systems written in Go that perform similarly-critical roles.
- AdrianRossouw 13y ago
  Yeah, we're still at a point in adoption where everybody building a production system in Go is still notable because they did it in Go in the first place. Systems built in Dart are practically unheard of.
- kkowalczyk 13y ago
  Here's a list of no-ones using Go in the real world: https://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/GoUsers https://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/GoUsers
  - mattmanser 13y ago
    It was hyperbole, I'm simply saying there are a hundred if not 10,000 times more jobs in PHP than Go and will be for the foreseeable future. HN is a oracle of tech, but a lot of it gos nowhere. And Go's still in the early stages. I remember the 3 months or so everyone here was raving about how Twisted was the next big thing.
pyskool 13y ago
Depression is another whole game. It completely screws up any plans you have of getting out of your misery. Work isn't meant to be fun and games, but neither is it meant to be a torture or an exercise in masochism. If its not working out, you need to make a change. Like with bad relationships, the longer you stay, the worse it gets. So start planning your exit. I hate to sound cliched, but the journey of a thousand steps really does start with one. Good luck!
re_todd 13y ago
Go and Dart? Sounds like you're out of touch with what most companies really use. Look at some job ads in your area to get a realistic sense of what's employable (if that's your main concern).
ditoax 13y ago
Sorry to hear about your situation. As somebody who also suffers from depression I cannot tell you how much I think you have to change your work environment. That black dog will do you in if you are not careful and an awful working environment is one of the worst things when it comes to depression in my experience. Also as noted by a couple of others is Go, Dart, etc. really the best technologies to be learning right now in your area (both technically and geographically). I don't know the NZ tech world at all but if it is anything like London (and most other places) then get a solid knowledge in the main business languages such as Java. Obviously don't just follow my advice blindly but research into companies in your areas and learn learn learn! I sincerely hope your depression improves.

by navs 13y ago

mattmanser 13y ago

No-one uses Go in the real world. And Dart is used even less than that. As for the rest of it, you've just entered the most in demand profession on the planet, you've got a degree in it and already have prior experience. You've got a lot to be hopeful (and proud) about. Build relationships and you will find work to love, not endure.

philsnow 13y ago
> No-one uses Go in the real world. YouTube uses Go for some very high-qps and mission-critical stuff. https://github.com/youtube/vitess https://github.com/youtube/vitess is in Go and sits on top of YouTube's MySQL databases. There are other as-yet-not-open-sourced systems written in Go that perform similarly-critical roles.
AdrianRossouw 13y ago
Yeah, we're still at a point in adoption where everybody building a production system in Go is still notable because they did it in Go in the first place. Systems built in Dart are practically unheard of.
kkowalczyk 13y ago
Here's a list of no-ones using Go in the real world: https://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/GoUsers https://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/GoUsers
- mattmanser 13y ago
  It was hyperbole, I'm simply saying there are a hundred if not 10,000 times more jobs in PHP than Go and will be for the foreseeable future. HN is a oracle of tech, but a lot of it gos nowhere. And Go's still in the early stages. I remember the 3 months or so everyone here was raving about how Twisted was the next big thing.

pyskool 13y ago

Depression is another whole game. It completely screws up any plans you have of getting out of your misery. Work isn't meant to be fun and games, but neither is it meant to be a torture or an exercise in masochism. If its not working out, you need to make a change. Like with bad relationships, the longer you stay, the worse it gets. So start planning your exit. I hate to sound cliched, but the journey of a thousand steps really does start with one. Good luck!

re_todd 13y ago

Go and Dart? Sounds like you're out of touch with what most companies really use. Look at some job ads in your area to get a realistic sense of what's employable (if that's your main concern).

ditoax 13y ago

Sorry to hear about your situation. As somebody who also suffers from depression I cannot tell you how much I think you have to change your work environment. That black dog will do you in if you are not careful and an awful working environment is one of the worst things when it comes to depression in my experience. Also as noted by a couple of others is Go, Dart, etc. really the best technologies to be learning right now in your area (both technically and geographically). I don't know the NZ tech world at all but if it is anything like London (and most other places) then get a solid knowledge in the main business languages such as Java. Obviously don't just follow my advice blindly but research into companies in your areas and learn learn learn! I sincerely hope your depression improves.