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by littke 13y ago

null_ptr 13y ago
There was a brief period a few years ago when the leading web design trend was to make pages simple, fast, and accessible. Out the window those all went.
- rhizome 13y ago
  Nine times out of 10 when I mention degradability I am met with eyerolls or out-and-out chuckles.
- jotm 13y ago
  Reminds me of how Flash sites looked when Flash Player was not installed (or with a flash blocker installed). We made a 360 on needless Web design apparently :-)
jotm 13y ago
But seriously, is there any reasonable advantage to putting a JS layer between the user and the HTML/CSS?
- littke 13y ago
  Yes. It makes for a much more fluid experience (at least if you have JS ;)), similar to that of a desktop app. The web was originally built to be a set of individual pages but that's not how we want things to behave today. Building a UI with Meteor.com where the JS controls all the interaction, page switching, event handling and automatic data updates is sooo much simpler than requiring a full page refresh or using AJAX to modify individual components. If the DOM is built up by JS in the first place, it makes it very simple to change it by JS. Read more about Meteor's philosophy in the first paragraphs of their docs, here: http://docs.meteor.com/ http://docs.meteor.com/ The downside is that if you don't have JS, you can't do much. In our case it was a price we decided to pay.
  - benohear 13y ago
    Interesting. What sort of backend do you use? Is it homegrown or can you integrate with e.g. Wordpress?
    - littke 13y ago
      Meteor.com is using NodeJS as a backend, but the idea is to not separate these two components. So Meteor spans both and you can write stuff designated for the client and the server side in the same file. In practice we rarely do, but both sides run the same code. Check it out!

The site is powered entirely by MeteorJS. There's a no-script version generated by Phantom but I guess it's not made for viewing. Sorry about that.

by littke 13y ago

The site is powered entirely by MeteorJS. There's a no-script version generated by Phantom but I guess it's not made for viewing. Sorry about that.

null_ptr 13y ago

There was a brief period a few years ago when the leading web design trend was to make pages simple, fast, and accessible. Out the window those all went.

rhizome 13y ago
Nine times out of 10 when I mention degradability I am met with eyerolls or out-and-out chuckles.
jotm 13y ago
Reminds me of how Flash sites looked when Flash Player was not installed (or with a flash blocker installed). We made a 360 on needless Web design apparently :-)

jotm 13y ago

But seriously, is there any reasonable advantage to putting a JS layer between the user and the HTML/CSS?

littke 13y ago
Yes. It makes for a much more fluid experience (at least if you have JS ;)), similar to that of a desktop app. The web was originally built to be a set of individual pages but that's not how we want things to behave today. Building a UI with Meteor.com where the JS controls all the interaction, page switching, event handling and automatic data updates is sooo much simpler than requiring a full page refresh or using AJAX to modify individual components. If the DOM is built up by JS in the first place, it makes it very simple to change it by JS. Read more about Meteor's philosophy in the first paragraphs of their docs, here: http://docs.meteor.com/ http://docs.meteor.com/ The downside is that if you don't have JS, you can't do much. In our case it was a price we decided to pay.
- benohear 13y ago
  Interesting. What sort of backend do you use? Is it homegrown or can you integrate with e.g. Wordpress?
  - littke 13y ago
    Meteor.com is using NodeJS as a backend, but the idea is to not separate these two components. So Meteor spans both and you can write stuff designated for the client and the server side in the same file. In practice we rarely do, but both sides run the same code. Check it out!