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No. In no way is it an "open question' if "light smoking" is even bad for you: "light and intermittent smoking pose substantial risks; the adverse health outco

No. In no way is it an "open question' if "light smoking" is even bad for you: "light and intermittent smoking pose substantial risks; the adverse health outcomes parallel dangers observed among daily smoking, particularly for cardiovascular disease." http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/121/13/1518.full http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/121/13/1518.full

a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2036.2000.00847.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2036.2000.... http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-4362.2000.00963.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-4362.2000.... http://www.data-yard.net/10v2/parkinson.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10v2/parkinson.htm http://www.data-yard.net/30/asthma.htm http://www.data-yard.net/30/asthma.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10c/nicotine.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10c/nicotine.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10b/cm.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10b/cm.htm http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/brea.htm http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/brea.htm http://www.data-yard.net/13/tlj.htm http://www.data-yard.net/13/tlj.htm http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/5/366.abstract http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/5/366.abst... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3613836?dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3613836?dopt=Abstract http://jap.physiology.org/content/63/1/152.abstract?ijkey=3ea8cff64c6d72a42e1d4ef7cf9f6fd2485e5921&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha http://jap.physiology.org/content/63/1/152.abstract?ijkey=3e... http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/80/16/1329.abstract http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/80/16/1329.abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1447-0594.2006.00314.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1447-0594.2006.... http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/13/9/1444.full http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/13/9/1444.full http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17855390&ordinalpos=4&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailV...
- keithflower 13y ago
  Please. Thalidomide is a good anti-nausea drug. Women who take thalidomide during pregnancy are at lower risk for nausea. Now, do you want to argue whether or not "light thalidomide" exposure during pregnancy is bad is an "open question"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_defects_crisis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_defects_crisi... Because that's what you're arguing with nicotine, along with cherry picking questionable studies, moving the goal posts, and even linking to organizations associated with tobacco manufacturing. Opioids have beneficial uses. So do you want us to think that it's an "open question" about whether "light intravenous use of heroin" as practiced is a good thing? Did you actually READ any of the articles you linked? In almost every case you cite, mention is made of the overall risks of smoking ANY amount. In some cases, the articles aren't even talking about smoking - they are merely talking about nicotine in a variety of forms. “Any smoking, even social smoking, is dangerous,” says David Wetter, Ph.D., chair of the Department of Health Disparities Research at M. D. Anderson. “Cigarettes and cigars are the only legal products whose advertised and intended use -- smoking -- will cause cancer and kill the consumer.” http://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/issues/2009-november/nights-on-the-town-and-celebratory-cigars-increase-cancer-risks.html http://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/iss... But let's play citation. Is second-hand smoke "light" enough exposure for you? Here are the health risks, which are not "open questions": https://www.google.com/search?q=google+scholar+second+hand+somke&oq=google+scholar+second+hand+somke&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i64.5973j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8#q=google+scholar+second+hand+smoke&spell=1 https://www.google.com/search?q=google+scholar+second+hand+s... And c'mon, really? Really? You cite a damned mouse study on carbon monoxide as that you think might be evidence that smoking might somehow, some way, be helpful...for...wait for it....heart attack and stroke? You cite a cell study that shows elevated levels of glutathione in smokers lungs and you want us to therefore magically jump to the laughable belief that smoking is therefore somehow good for your lungs? You cite a study that claims that rare thyroid cancer is reduced among smokers, when the likeliest explanation is that thyroid cancer is so rare that smokers die of other more common cancers and little things like strokes and heart attacks long before they can ever develop thyroid cancer. Many of the other bullshit claims you cite above have been thoroughly debunked: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637838/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637838/ http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/long-term-smoking-increases-colorectal-cancer-risk-study-shows http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/long-term-smoking-increase... http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/58649.php http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/58649.php

a8da6b0c91d 13y ago

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2036.2000.00847.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2036.2000.... http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-4362.2000.00963.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-4362.2000.... http://www.data-yard.net/10v2/parkinson.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10v2/parkinson.htm http://www.data-yard.net/30/asthma.htm http://www.data-yard.net/30/asthma.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10c/nicotine.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10c/nicotine.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10b/cm.htm http://www.data-yard.net/10b/cm.htm http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/brea.htm http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/brea.htm http://www.data-yard.net/13/tlj.htm http://www.data-yard.net/13/tlj.htm http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/5/366.abstract http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/5/366.abst... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3613836?dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3613836?dopt=Abstract http://jap.physiology.org/content/63/1/152.abstract?ijkey=3ea8cff64c6d72a42e1d4ef7cf9f6fd2485e5921&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha http://jap.physiology.org/content/63/1/152.abstract?ijkey=3e... http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/80/16/1329.abstract http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/80/16/1329.abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1447-0594.2006.00314.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1447-0594.2006.... http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/13/9/1444.full http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/13/9/1444.full http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17855390&ordinalpos=4&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailV...

keithflower 13y ago
Please. Thalidomide is a good anti-nausea drug. Women who take thalidomide during pregnancy are at lower risk for nausea. Now, do you want to argue whether or not "light thalidomide" exposure during pregnancy is bad is an "open question"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_defects_crisis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_defects_crisi... Because that's what you're arguing with nicotine, along with cherry picking questionable studies, moving the goal posts, and even linking to organizations associated with tobacco manufacturing. Opioids have beneficial uses. So do you want us to think that it's an "open question" about whether "light intravenous use of heroin" as practiced is a good thing? Did you actually READ any of the articles you linked? In almost every case you cite, mention is made of the overall risks of smoking ANY amount. In some cases, the articles aren't even talking about smoking - they are merely talking about nicotine in a variety of forms. “Any smoking, even social smoking, is dangerous,” says David Wetter, Ph.D., chair of the Department of Health Disparities Research at M. D. Anderson. “Cigarettes and cigars are the only legal products whose advertised and intended use -- smoking -- will cause cancer and kill the consumer.” http://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/issues/2009-november/nights-on-the-town-and-celebratory-cigars-increase-cancer-risks.html http://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/iss... But let's play citation. Is second-hand smoke "light" enough exposure for you? Here are the health risks, which are not "open questions": https://www.google.com/search?q=google+scholar+second+hand+somke&oq=google+scholar+second+hand+somke&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i64.5973j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8#q=google+scholar+second+hand+smoke&spell=1 https://www.google.com/search?q=google+scholar+second+hand+s... And c'mon, really? Really? You cite a damned mouse study on carbon monoxide as that you think might be evidence that smoking might somehow, some way, be helpful...for...wait for it....heart attack and stroke? You cite a cell study that shows elevated levels of glutathione in smokers lungs and you want us to therefore magically jump to the laughable belief that smoking is therefore somehow good for your lungs? You cite a study that claims that rare thyroid cancer is reduced among smokers, when the likeliest explanation is that thyroid cancer is so rare that smokers die of other more common cancers and little things like strokes and heart attacks long before they can ever develop thyroid cancer. Many of the other bullshit claims you cite above have been thoroughly debunked: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637838/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637838/ http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/long-term-smoking-increases-colorectal-cancer-risk-study-shows http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/long-term-smoking-increase... http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/58649.php http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/58649.php