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And counting! The worst part of it is that Blu-ray still isn't considered the industry standard. Maybe they should've made a Blu-ray attachment for the PS2 ins

by aston 19y ago

And counting! The worst part of it is that Blu-ray still isn't considered the industry standard. Maybe they should've made a Blu-ray attachment for the PS2 instead.

chaostheory 19y ago
they should have - but they wanted to help their movie arm... not to mention they should have thought about putting out (by helping blu-ray to become the standard with ps3) something easier to program for... then again MS will also eventually lose money on the 360 as well, for making faulty hardware which we added a 3 year warranty on. Estimated cost: 1 billion. Looks like Nintendo will be the big winner in this war
- rms 19y ago
  With a strong, strong honorable mention for IBM. They make the main processors in the PS3, Xbox 360, AND the Wii.
- cellis 19y ago
  "Looks like Nintendo will be the big winner in this war" Pretty sure NOT. Now that MSFT has eaten Sony's lunch (and is (eke-ingly) profitable), its only a matter of time before they consume Nintendo. You know the drill, embrace and extend, fast follow...
  - chaostheory 19y ago
    I really doubt that considering: 1) even if Nintendo lowers the price of their console, they still profit from the sale of each one; both MS and Sony still lose money on every sale of their consoles 2) game development on Wii (and DS) is much cheaper than 360 or PS3. Not to mention sales are great on Wii. Ubisoft made a killing last holiday season on the Wii. Publishers like EA that put their bets on Sony and MS didn't post phenomenal sales and profit in the same quarter. Publishers are now shifting their focus on the Wii. Consequently the Wii will probably have the biggest library (something that made PS2 king). 3) based on current growth rates, the Wii is already dominating 360 and PS3; Nintendo already has the mindshare of normal people which normally don't play games Nintendo has already eaten both MS and Sony's lunch (especially Sony's) maybe in the next war MS will be able to dominate (they have improved afterall - except for the hardware problems)... but they won't in the current one
    - aston 19y ago
      You're right. But a few corrections: 1) Microsoft makes money on the most expensive Xbox 360 (the Elite) for sure. The margins are probably close on the normal 360, and maybe taking a tiny loss on the new Arcade SKU. 2) While the Wii is cheaper to develop for, the biggest moneymakers have all been on the Xbox 360, and I suspect that'll be true for a while. The big sellers are all multiplayer online, and the Xbox LIVE stuff is best of breed there. That said, Nintendo's going to definitely see an uptick in 3rd party games, if only because there haven't been all that many so far. 3) The Wii isn't actually dominating the Xbox 360 in the US in absolute terms.
- aston 19y ago
  Microsoft already lost that money (that is, it's already been accounted for on the books). They're probably all profit from here on out. As an aside, Nintendo hasn't ever lost.

by aston 19y ago

And counting! The worst part of it is that Blu-ray still isn't considered the industry standard. Maybe they should've made a Blu-ray attachment for the PS2 instead.

chaostheory 19y ago

they should have - but they wanted to help their movie arm... not to mention they should have thought about putting out (by helping blu-ray to become the standard with ps3) something easier to program for... then again MS will also eventually lose money on the 360 as well, for making faulty hardware which we added a 3 year warranty on. Estimated cost: 1 billion. Looks like Nintendo will be the big winner in this war

rms 19y ago
With a strong, strong honorable mention for IBM. They make the main processors in the PS3, Xbox 360, AND the Wii.
cellis 19y ago
"Looks like Nintendo will be the big winner in this war" Pretty sure NOT. Now that MSFT has eaten Sony's lunch (and is (eke-ingly) profitable), its only a matter of time before they consume Nintendo. You know the drill, embrace and extend, fast follow...
- chaostheory 19y ago
  I really doubt that considering: 1) even if Nintendo lowers the price of their console, they still profit from the sale of each one; both MS and Sony still lose money on every sale of their consoles 2) game development on Wii (and DS) is much cheaper than 360 or PS3. Not to mention sales are great on Wii. Ubisoft made a killing last holiday season on the Wii. Publishers like EA that put their bets on Sony and MS didn't post phenomenal sales and profit in the same quarter. Publishers are now shifting their focus on the Wii. Consequently the Wii will probably have the biggest library (something that made PS2 king). 3) based on current growth rates, the Wii is already dominating 360 and PS3; Nintendo already has the mindshare of normal people which normally don't play games Nintendo has already eaten both MS and Sony's lunch (especially Sony's) maybe in the next war MS will be able to dominate (they have improved afterall - except for the hardware problems)... but they won't in the current one
  - aston 19y ago
    You're right. But a few corrections: 1) Microsoft makes money on the most expensive Xbox 360 (the Elite) for sure. The margins are probably close on the normal 360, and maybe taking a tiny loss on the new Arcade SKU. 2) While the Wii is cheaper to develop for, the biggest moneymakers have all been on the Xbox 360, and I suspect that'll be true for a while. The big sellers are all multiplayer online, and the Xbox LIVE stuff is best of breed there. That said, Nintendo's going to definitely see an uptick in 3rd party games, if only because there haven't been all that many so far. 3) The Wii isn't actually dominating the Xbox 360 in the US in absolute terms.
aston 19y ago
Microsoft already lost that money (that is, it's already been accounted for on the books). They're probably all profit from here on out. As an aside, Nintendo hasn't ever lost.