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> 39 percent reported thoughts of suicide. In the 18 to 25 age group, 56 percent reported suicidal thoughts. Wow. Depressed people who were prescribed antidepr

> 39 percent reported thoughts of suicide. In the 18 to 25 age group, 56 percent reported suicidal thoughts. Wow. Depressed people who were prescribed antidepressants for their depression are depressed? What a shocking revelation.

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- petersellers 13y ago
  I think the point is that there is no control group as part of the study (at least, one was not indicated in the article). So, while the article throws around a lot of scary sounding statistics, the only conclusion that can be drawn based on the information given is that "depressed people are depressed". It would have been helpful if they compared the results to depressed people who were not taking any antidepressants.
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    - petersellers 13y ago
      I'm not questioning the study, I am questioning the article's shoddy analysis of the study.
- bertil 13y ago
  Thenmar, Although I agree with your sentiment, both of your comments are flippant retorts. This is rude, and more importantly, unscientific. It’s not because something is obvious that it doesn’t deserve questioning. You can quote the methodology comment relation, or you can provide and actual explanation — but you can’t dismiss anyone, even when they appears to be making something as easy to explain as confusing depression and suicide.
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- gizmo686 13y ago
  I'm sure they did. In fact, I suspect that their actual paper has a control group, and gives us the rates for depressed people not on medication. However, non of that is in the linked article, and general purpose news sites do not have a good track record of accurately reporting on scientific studies.
  - cpleppert 13y ago
    The abstract mentions no control group at all and the only number mentioned was the amount of people on antidepressants who took the survey. Additionally, no claim of statistical relevance was made and all the results are simply reported from the survey. So likely there is no control group.

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petersellers 13y ago
I think the point is that there is no control group as part of the study (at least, one was not indicated in the article). So, while the article throws around a lot of scary sounding statistics, the only conclusion that can be drawn based on the information given is that "depressed people are depressed". It would have been helpful if they compared the results to depressed people who were not taking any antidepressants.
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  - petersellers 13y ago
    I'm not questioning the study, I am questioning the article's shoddy analysis of the study.
bertil 13y ago
Thenmar, Although I agree with your sentiment, both of your comments are flippant retorts. This is rude, and more importantly, unscientific. It’s not because something is obvious that it doesn’t deserve questioning. You can quote the methodology comment relation, or you can provide and actual explanation — but you can’t dismiss anyone, even when they appears to be making something as easy to explain as confusing depression and suicide.
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gizmo686 13y ago
I'm sure they did. In fact, I suspect that their actual paper has a control group, and gives us the rates for depressed people not on medication. However, non of that is in the linked article, and general purpose news sites do not have a good track record of accurately reporting on scientific studies.
- cpleppert 13y ago
  The abstract mentions no control group at all and the only number mentioned was the amount of people on antidepressants who took the survey. Additionally, no claim of statistical relevance was made and all the results are simply reported from the survey. So likely there is no control group.