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Wow, I can't even modify my post. Which unfair HN mod locked my post? How on earth could anyone connect this to NSA?

by yeukhon 13y ago

ephemeralgomi 13y ago
The poster did not "connect this to the NSA". She/he argues that blindly acquiescing to removal of rights in the name of security is a bad idea, using the NSA phone tapping deal as a point of comparison.
- krapp 13y ago
  But access to a dev console isn't a right - it's just a feature modern browsers happen to include. I agree that disabling it is pointless and futile but it's hardly violating anyone's rights.
  - ephemeralgomi 13y ago
    Yup, that is a completely legitimate argument to raise.
  - MichaelGG 13y ago
    Calling it a "right" instead of a permission doesn't change much. "Digital Rights Management" doesn't manage rights under your definition (unless pause or fastforward is a right).
icambron 13y ago
> I didn't read the whole thing May I suggest you read the whole thing next time? You can certainly disagree with the author's assertion that companies and governments abuse "for your security" to do awful things (or that it's what happened here), but it's far from ridiculous. I think you just misunderstood the point about the NSA--not reading will do that to you--and it makes you look silly.
- yeukhon 13y ago
  I did understand the point he was trying to make, but to me that's a poor analogy. This self-XSS prevention is a temporary solution. Facebook probably thought they had enough of people reporting dev console self-XSS so they took the initiative. Netflix is not abusing "for your security" to do awful things. How? I just don't see it. I see that as an accusation, putting Netflix and Facebook's temporary solution in the same category as NSA's excuse is bad. I might be unfair to the author for not reading the entire post (well technically I read most of it, except Crockford and afterward I gave a quick glance), I will admit that's my failure, but that argument doesn't appeal to me at all.
mbrubeck 13y ago
Comments are only editable for a limited time after you post them.
- yeukhon 13y ago
  It was 2 minutes. In less than 10 seconds I was downvoted and then comment disabled.

Wow, I can't even modify my post. Which unfair HN mod locked my post? How on earth could anyone connect this to NSA?

by yeukhon 13y ago

Wow, I can't even modify my post. Which unfair HN mod locked my post? How on earth could anyone connect this to NSA?

The poster did not "connect this to the NSA". She/he argues that blindly acquiescing to removal of rights in the name of security is a bad idea, using the NSA phone tapping deal as a point of comparison.

krapp 13y ago
But access to a dev console isn't a right - it's just a feature modern browsers happen to include. I agree that disabling it is pointless and futile but it's hardly violating anyone's rights.
- ephemeralgomi 13y ago
  Yup, that is a completely legitimate argument to raise.
- MichaelGG 13y ago
  Calling it a "right" instead of a permission doesn't change much. "Digital Rights Management" doesn't manage rights under your definition (unless pause or fastforward is a right).

icambron 13y ago

> I didn't read the whole thing May I suggest you read the whole thing next time? You can certainly disagree with the author's assertion that companies and governments abuse "for your security" to do awful things (or that it's what happened here), but it's far from ridiculous. I think you just misunderstood the point about the NSA--not reading will do that to you--and it makes you look silly.

yeukhon 13y ago
I did understand the point he was trying to make, but to me that's a poor analogy. This self-XSS prevention is a temporary solution. Facebook probably thought they had enough of people reporting dev console self-XSS so they took the initiative. Netflix is not abusing "for your security" to do awful things. How? I just don't see it. I see that as an accusation, putting Netflix and Facebook's temporary solution in the same category as NSA's excuse is bad. I might be unfair to the author for not reading the entire post (well technically I read most of it, except Crockford and afterward I gave a quick glance), I will admit that's my failure, but that argument doesn't appeal to me at all.

mbrubeck 13y ago

Comments are only editable for a limited time after you post them.

yeukhon 13y ago
It was 2 minutes. In less than 10 seconds I was downvoted and then comment disabled.