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Wondering why Persona isn't on that list. It could use some marketing efforts.

mbrubeck 13y ago
Persona is moving into maintenance mode until/unless it can come up with a better strategy for driving adoption. Some related info: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Persona_AAR https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Persona_AAR Both the team and some of the underlying technology are now at work on Firefox Accounts, which is a simpler (non-federated) system that will power the new Firefox Sync service, the Firefox Marketplace (for installable web apps on Firefox OS and other platforms), and other Mozilla services.
- workhere-io 13y ago
  I get the sense from your comment and link that there's a real risk that Persona will be abandoned in a few years?
  - wmf 13y ago
    It seems like they expected Persona to get substantial adoption before it was even finalized and then declared it a failure when that didn't happen.
    - callahad 13y ago
      In hindsight we did indeed spend too much time experimenting and tweaking, and not enough time saying "it's good enough" and driving it to completion. But it's open source :) we're still working on getting it there. The next release will dramatically scale back the API complexity, lock in the APIs and data formats, and pave the way for native browser extensions, self-hosted polyfills, etc.
  - callahad 13y ago
    The only change is that Mozilla isn't funding new feature development in Persona this year since Firefox OS has slightly more time-sensitive / urgent needs. Persona is still actively supported by Mozilla, and is a critical part of our own infrastructure. Persona ain't going away so long as we're still relying on it.
  - mbrubeck 13y ago
    I'm not sure what the long-term plan will end up being. I personally hope it can find a new direction to grow eventually. (Note: I'm a Mozilla developer but I don't work on Persona or Firefox Accounts.) We use Persona extensively for our own sites and tools, so I'm sure there would be some sort of migration process if Persona were ever shut down in favor of some replacement. For a more informed answer, you can ask the team directly in the mailing list or IRC channels listed at the bottom of https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona#Join_the_Identity_community https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona#Join_the_Identit... [Edit: Or see callahad's reply in this thread.]
- mlinksva 13y ago
  That's too bad, I was really excited about Persona. I didn't really grok Firefox Accounts from the announcement, but reading above helped, then I found https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox_Accounts#What.27s_the_difference_between_Persona_and_Firefox_Accounts.3F https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox_Accounts#What.27s_... which explains more.

Persona is moving into maintenance mode until/unless it can come up with a better strategy for driving adoption. Some related info: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Persona_AAR https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Persona_AAR Both the team and some of the underlying technology are now at work on Firefox Accounts, which is a simpler (non-federated) system that will power the new Firefox Sync service, the Firefox Marketplace (for installable web apps on Firefox OS and other platforms), and other Mozilla services.

workhere-io 13y ago
I get the sense from your comment and link that there's a real risk that Persona will be abandoned in a few years?
- wmf 13y ago
  It seems like they expected Persona to get substantial adoption before it was even finalized and then declared it a failure when that didn't happen.
  - callahad 13y ago
    In hindsight we did indeed spend too much time experimenting and tweaking, and not enough time saying "it's good enough" and driving it to completion. But it's open source :) we're still working on getting it there. The next release will dramatically scale back the API complexity, lock in the APIs and data formats, and pave the way for native browser extensions, self-hosted polyfills, etc.
- callahad 13y ago
  The only change is that Mozilla isn't funding new feature development in Persona this year since Firefox OS has slightly more time-sensitive / urgent needs. Persona is still actively supported by Mozilla, and is a critical part of our own infrastructure. Persona ain't going away so long as we're still relying on it.
- mbrubeck 13y ago
  I'm not sure what the long-term plan will end up being. I personally hope it can find a new direction to grow eventually. (Note: I'm a Mozilla developer but I don't work on Persona or Firefox Accounts.) We use Persona extensively for our own sites and tools, so I'm sure there would be some sort of migration process if Persona were ever shut down in favor of some replacement. For a more informed answer, you can ask the team directly in the mailing list or IRC channels listed at the bottom of https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona#Join_the_Identity_community https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Persona#Join_the_Identit... [Edit: Or see callahad's reply in this thread.]
mlinksva 13y ago
That's too bad, I was really excited about Persona. I didn't really grok Firefox Accounts from the announcement, but reading above helped, then I found https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox_Accounts#What.27s_the_difference_between_Persona_and_Firefox_Accounts.3F https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox_Accounts#What.27s_... which explains more.