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> And to me, at least, it's pretty clear why competent, responsible developers are not participating in this space -- we're too frightened by possible governmen
by mpyne 13y ago
> And to me, at least, it's pretty clear why competent, responsible developers are not participating in this space -- we're too frightened by possible government sanctions.
I don't think that's clear at all.
In fact I think bunderbunder has it right. Those who make the best products will require a large enough expense for formal design, implementation, secure hardware acquisition, physical security (i.e. no simply running your exchange on someone else's cloud without a lot of oversight), the works. This requires tons of time and resource investment.
Because if any part of that chain is improperly coded, designed, implemented, etc. it will eventually be exploited and you'll be no better than the Poloniex type exchanges of the world.
In the meantime there will be those "incompetent" developers you mention with a shipping product already on the market. And theirs will be much cheaper as they don't need to devote "Space Shuttle computer software" levels of development design and implementation effort. So you'll be both late to market and more expensive.
If you're talking about financial security here then you effectively need to be building a Bentley instead of a Pinto. But you'll be competing in that unregulated market with Pintos with a consumer base full of people willing to take the risk of driving in a Pinto instead of a Bentley they can't afford anyways.
And this has nothing to do with the government yet, either sanctions or regulations.
In fact this type of "tragedy of the commons" is exactly why there is government regulation. They help ameliorate the inevitable "race to the bottom" by artificially limiting where the bottom may be.
But government regulation probably won't help too much here since you can always run your exchange out of a country that doesn't care and people can make their transactions with whatever identity they wish.
Who knows, maybe the industry will self-create and self-adopt appropriate regulation as a market differentiator. But that still would open the question of who does the enforcement; if competitors discover their competition isn't actually following the regs then they'd be forced to "streamline" themselves and then the whole thing goes to pot again.
- jnbiche 13y agoBut here's where I disagree with you: it costs literally millions of dollars to get the needed state money licenses to legally operate a Bitcoin exchange[1]. FinCEN has been very explicit that they consider Bitcoin exchanges to be money transmitters. So those millions are money that could go toward building the infrastructure you describe. Bitcoin companies like Coinbase who have finished their Series A have to spend their runway on licenses instead of developers or infrastructure. It's a huge problem, whether or not people are willing to admit it. But thank you for arguing in a rational and non-bullying/non-contemptuous manner. 1. http://payment-systems.quora.com/The-Money-Transmitter-License-Dilemma http://payment-systems.quora.com/The-Money-Transmitter-Licen...
- mpyne 13y agoWell as long as the cost is fairly applied to new entrants then I don't see that as being problematic per se (as after all, any new entrant will have to deal with the same selectivity). In fact that's practically the point, to ensure that the "fly by night" Bitcoin exchange shops that couldn't survive a theft of 50 Bitcoins without going under don't actually make it into legit business. Yes, this is unfortunate for those devs out there who could solve the problem of making a good Bitcoin exchange if only the cost-of-entry were cheaper, but that happens in tons of other industries too (and not always due to the government), and it already has an answer.
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- yuhong 13y agoI think deposit insurance is a better solution to the problem. Part of underwriting Bitcoin deposit insurance would be a code and design review and proof of reserves etc, and it would also allow reimbursement if it does get hacked.