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You realize that most lower things are written in or base on C, right.

• thrownaway2424 13y ago
  Yes I am fully aware of the sad state of our industry.
  • codygman 13y ago
    I'm curious, what do you propose the industry use?
    • pktgen 13y ago
      Would love to hear the answer to this as well. For the types of thing C is used for, I do not know of another language that can _practically_ be used for the same thing, while maintaining the same level of performance. Rust looks promising but is not mature yet.
      • thrownaway2424 13y ago
        You've never heard of C++?
        • 72deluxe 13y ago
          Like BeOS!
    • dfkf 13y ago
      C++11? (runs away...)
    • ForHackernews 13y ago
      Isn't Go designed to fill this niche? It's supposed to be a low-level systems language, but with "friendlier" features than C, and built-in concurrency support.
      • pktgen 13y ago
        Go is advertised as a systems language but certain things like the lack of manual memory management say otherwise.
        • wbl 13y ago
          Before there was C, there was Pascal. You didn't have malloc in Pascal. At ETH Zurich the standard OS was written in Oberon: it ran directly on the hardware with a garbage collector collecting everything.
      • codygman 13y ago
        They kind of recanted that statement and said they meant it for "web servers" and stuff like that. However I know there has been at least a window manager made in Go. I don't think it's the best fit, but it's a lot better than many current solutions. I personally prefer Haskell for anything others would write in Go, however many may find Ocaml or Erlang to fit them better. However I'm biased and believe that functional programming is a better fit, more bug-free, easier, and simpler for most use cases than imperative programming.
      • thrownaway2424 13y ago
        Go also has a very highly quality crypto implementation. It has all of the good-code features that gnutls lacks: comments that make sense, unit tests, automatic memory management (of course), useful types, etc. Compare http://golang.org/src/pkg/crypto/x509/x509.go http://golang.org/src/pkg/crypto/x509/x509.go to https://www.gitorious.org/gnutls/gnutls/source/6aa26f78150ccbdf0aec1878a41c17c41d358a3b:lib/x509/verify.c https://www.gitorious.org/gnutls/gnutls/source/6aa26f78150cc...
        • codygman 13y ago
          Here is the Haskell version (I think): http://hackage.haskell.org/package/x509-1.4.10/docs/src/Data-X509-Cert.html http://hackage.haskell.org/package/x509-1.4.10/docs/src/Data... http://hackage.haskell.org/package/x509-1.4.10/docs/src/Data-X509.html http://hackage.haskell.org/package/x509-1.4.10/docs/src/Data... Other imports/files can be seen at: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/x509-1.4.10/docs/src http://hackage.haskell.org/package/x509-1.4.10/docs/src