> business apps (I take it you mean "enterprise apps") are not the epitome of programming, much less serious programming. I'd reverse that and say the polished

> business apps (I take it you mean "enterprise apps") are not the epitome of programming, much less serious programming. I'd reverse that and say the polished, packaged apps are the exceptions, these days. Code behind webservers and business backend processing is the code that runs the world now. To see C++ used in such code is pretty unusual. I do think C++ has its place: kernels, drivers, numerics. Not much else.