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Religions (and consequently certain traditions) that have survived until today have an incredible obsession with mensturation. This is just another stick to bea
by yawz 13y ago
Religions (and consequently certain traditions) that have survived until today have an incredible obsession with mensturation. This is just another stick to beat and humiliate women with. It is unbelievable (for a questioning, inquisitive human being) that Bronze Age traditions and beliefs are still revered today.
- nsxwolf 13y agoI'm not aware of an obsession with menstruation in any major variant of Christianity.
- kiiski 13y agoMaybe not anymore (at least in the west), but the bible does have that stuff in it too. http://www.openbible.info/topics/menstruation http://www.openbible.info/topics/menstruation
- nsxwolf 13y agoThese practices wouldn't have been observed by Christians, except perhaps by early Jewish converts.
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- acqq 13y agoWouldn't because they are in Old Testament? Like the famous http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-22-18/ http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-22-18/ which was also "not" observed by Christians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_the_Early_Modern_period http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_the_Early_Moder...
- nsxwolf 13y agoYeah well, welcome to the early modern period. The Catholic Church from the beginning had outlawed the persecution of witches and condemned belief in their power as superstition. But people will still do crazy shit.
- Crake 13y agoYup. That's why old testament practices like male genital mutilation are no longer practiced by Christians today.
- heartbreak 13y agoI could only think of one verse off the top of my head, but here are several. The Leviticus 15:19-30 reads a lot like what was described in the article. http://www.openbible.info/topics/menstruation http://www.openbible.info/topics/menstruation
- chad_oliver 13y agoTo be fair, that's Jewish civil law. The vast majority of Christians would agree that this doesn't apply to Christians today.
- Crake 13y ago>The vast majority of Christians would agree that this doesn't apply to Christians today. Jesus disagrees with that, as these people would learn if they ever actually read their holy text.
- nsxwolf 13y agoI always find it interesting how people like you think your superficial, amateur exegesis of the bible trumps thousands of years of scholarly thought and debate. So Christians got it wrong from day 1, and kept getting it wrong for centuries, but then Crake came along and set us all straight.
- chad_oliver 13y agoOkay, Crake, I've got three questions for you: 1) Have you read the Christian holy text? I don't expect you to have read everything, but if you're going to make the claim that you did, you should have at least read the New Testament and the Pentateuch. 2) Could you please explain, in your own words, what the New Testament says about the laws presented in the Old Testament? Specifically, I'd love to know how you interpret Mark 2, Acts 10, Acts 15, and the book of Galatians, especially Galatians 2. Considering that Jesus himself didn't obey all of the Jewish civil and ritual laws (see Mark 2) yet proclaimed himself to be sinless, on what basis do you claim that Jesus teaches that Christians should obey the civil and ritual laws? 3) Isn't it a little bit arrogant to make a specious claim, thus demonstrating that you don't understand the Christian bible, then immediately accuse Christians of not reading their own holy book?
- nsxwolf 13y agoApparently there is an old Orthodox liturgical tradition that women abstain from receiving the Eucharist during menstruation, but it doesn't appear to be an official requirement.
- yawz 13y agoWoman being unclean during menstrual cycle is part of Abrahamic religions. But I guess this comes from the bigger problem of "sex" being wrong unless it constitutes "breeding".
- Natsu 13y agoActually some of those regulations are more akin to health regulations. Granted, they didn't understand disease at the time, but they were able to find things associated with it to avoid, like contact with blood.
- chc 13y agoThat is not really an idea found in the Tanakh. I mean, the writers are unanimously in favor of breeding, but I don't think any of them suggest that sex is only for that purpose.
- refurb 13y agoThe only Abrahamic religion that views sex as only for breeding would be Catholicism (and maybe a few other smaller sects). Judaism, Protestants and Muslims all believe sex is a normal healthy thing.
- nsxwolf 13y agoCatholicism absolutely does not view sex as only for breeding.
- sergiosgc 13y agoYou may be reading it wrong. Sex is viewed by the Catholic Church as an act of love between man and wife, that can't be dissociated from breeding. It is not only for breeding, but it must be conducive to breeding. It is laid out in very expressive form, if a bit long, in the Humanae Vitae Encyclical Letter by Pope Paul VI. If you don't wish to read the whole text, lookup points 12 and 14. http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/docume...
- zacinbusiness 13y agoNot to offend anyone but Christianity is basically just a crazy death cult. I've been fighting the ignorance of this religion my entire life.
- nsxwolf 13y agoWhen you say something completely ignorant and offensive you only make it worse by bracketing it with "not to offend anyone".
- zacinbusiness 13y agoYeah I know. It's sort of like saying things like millions of people should be treated like shit because somebody in a cave wrote some words in a book thousands of years ago.
- nnq 13y agoTry travelling around the world a bit and see for yourself that there's more than to it than the "american brand" of Christianity. European Catholics are more "lightweight" when it comes to their belief and when science and reason contradicts religion they'll take the science/reason way in 9 out of 10 cases. Orthodox Christians in Eastern Europe and Russia have a similar mindset and and they also take things with a grain of humor (even more than a grain sometimes) and are ok even with making fun of their own beliefs :) If you generalize a bit, you see that things went down hill since the protestants tried to reform Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation , also, what I call "american brand C." is all a radicalized descendent of protestant reformation), had some mixed good and bad philosophical ideas mixed in with "faith", but mainly managed to take themselves waaaaaaay too seriously! Mind it, I'm an atheist myself, but C. in not that harmful if not taken too far and it's sometimes good for humor ...now if only people could manage to also take Islam this lightly and look more at its funny sides :)
- zacinbusiness 13y agoI'll agree here. The American brand that has spawned the tea party and is super racist is a crazy death cult. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that somewhere there are good Christians. But I just don't see it in my experience with thousands of then in the USA.
- Crake 13y agoI'd recommend reading the Bible. There's a lot on the topic to be found there.