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Do you miss any music? Setting aside the Little Sister concerns Spotify is not an option for me because I like concert bootlegs and some obscure folk artists. H

by dfc 13y ago

Do you miss any music? Setting aside the Little Sister concerns Spotify is not an option for me because I like concert bootlegs and some obscure folk artists. Have they added the ability to limit the upstream bandwidth? I remember a lot of my gaming friends complaining that the client was the ultimate gun NERF.

dundun 13y ago
I've heard the p2p stuff is going away on the desktop app, but you could easily get around it by using the webplayer or mobile app. AFAIK, there's no way to limit the upload speed in the current desktop implementation (in the app). The content is generally pretty good but they depend on the artists/labels getting it into aggregators or making it available. Bootlegs won't be there because that would probably piss the bands off.
- dfc 13y ago
  Terabytes of bootlegs that do not piss the bands off: https://archive.org/details/etree https://archive.org/details/etree Short list of musicians granting permission to have bootlegs hosted on archive.org/etree: 311 Blues Traveler Camper Van Beethoven Cowboy Junkies Cracker Dark Star Orchestra Death Cab for Cutie Derek Trucks Band Disco Biscuits Donna the Buffalo Drive-By Truckers Ekoostik Hookah Elliott Smith Furthur Grace Potter and the Nocturnals Grateful Dead Guster Hank Williams III Hot Buttered Rum Jack Johnson John Butler Trio John Mayer Keller Williams Little Feat Live Music Archive Local H Lotus Matisyahu Matt Nathanson Max Creek Michael Franti and Spearhead moe. My Morning Jacket Of A Revolution Perpetual Groove Phil Lesh and Friends Radiators Railroad Earth Ratdog Ryan Adams Smashing Pumpkins Sound Tribe Sector 9 String Cheese Incident Tea Leaf Green The Breakfast Umphreys McGee Warren Zevon Ween Yonder Mountain String Band My personal favorite is Danny Schmidt, a singer songwriter rom TX/VA: https://archive.org/details/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac https://archive.org/details/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac The 4,700+ other artists: https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmet... 24bit flacs: https://archive.org/search.php?query=%28format%3A%2824Bit%20FLAC%29%20OR%20%28flac24%29%20OR%20%2824-bit%29%20OR%2024bit%29%20AND%20collection%3Aetree https://archive.org/search.php?query=%28format%3A%2824Bit%20...
  - dundun 13y ago
    Sorry, I should have clarified that comment before posting it. Many bands allow audience taping but I'm not aware of m?any that allow for commercial distribution of those recordings. If Spotify attempted to distribute those recordings against the bands' policies then it would probably piss off the bands. That Danny Schmidt is pretty great stuff. You're right about Spotify's lack of content when it comes to stuff like this-- they have all his studio albums but are kind of weak when it comes to live stuff, they have one album. Archive.org definitely fills in this gap (I use it all the time for Dead shows).
    - dfc 13y ago
      Now I see what you were saying. I think the studio process strips the humanity out of music. I have been working on a feature request / outline of functionality for beets and etree that I need to finally submit to sampsyo. How awesome would this be: $ beet etree --get dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac etree: requesting ogg format etree: fingerprints verified etree: Success: Downloaded Album: 2007-12-13 - The Cactus Cafe $ Archive.org has a somewhat documented API that describes all of the "resources." A lot of the shows even come with cover art for those that are into that. JSON for recording: https://archive.org/metadata/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac https://archive.org/metadata/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac
Wintamute 13y ago
Yeah, the Spotify catalogue isn't exhaustive by any means, but its pretty darn good. I miss some more obscure items from my mp3 collection, especially some techno/dance stuff I enjoyed in my early 20s (I shed a tear for that occasionally) - but overall I feel like the benefits of shedding a 30GB collection of files whose metadata I was obsessed by outweigh the negatives of dumping my personal music collection. If Spotify dies I'll just move onto the next service. If there are a few obscure mp3s you can't live without you can import them into your Spotify client. They'll get auto synced to any mobile devices you have connected and the client installed on too (although not cloud synced to other computers - you'd have to copy them manually). Spotify does a lot of local caching, so once you've listened to a track once it'll likely be cached so it doesn't hammer your collection too badly. Pretty sure I've continued to get good gaming pings while my gf listens to Spotify in the next room :) EDIT: I did not know about the P2P stuff. Huh! Interesting ...

by dfc 13y ago

dundun 13y ago

I've heard the p2p stuff is going away on the desktop app, but you could easily get around it by using the webplayer or mobile app. AFAIK, there's no way to limit the upload speed in the current desktop implementation (in the app). The content is generally pretty good but they depend on the artists/labels getting it into aggregators or making it available. Bootlegs won't be there because that would probably piss the bands off.

dfc 13y ago
Terabytes of bootlegs that do not piss the bands off: https://archive.org/details/etree https://archive.org/details/etree Short list of musicians granting permission to have bootlegs hosted on archive.org/etree: 311 Blues Traveler Camper Van Beethoven Cowboy Junkies Cracker Dark Star Orchestra Death Cab for Cutie Derek Trucks Band Disco Biscuits Donna the Buffalo Drive-By Truckers Ekoostik Hookah Elliott Smith Furthur Grace Potter and the Nocturnals Grateful Dead Guster Hank Williams III Hot Buttered Rum Jack Johnson John Butler Trio John Mayer Keller Williams Little Feat Live Music Archive Local H Lotus Matisyahu Matt Nathanson Max Creek Michael Franti and Spearhead moe. My Morning Jacket Of A Revolution Perpetual Groove Phil Lesh and Friends Radiators Railroad Earth Ratdog Ryan Adams Smashing Pumpkins Sound Tribe Sector 9 String Cheese Incident Tea Leaf Green The Breakfast Umphreys McGee Warren Zevon Ween Yonder Mountain String Band My personal favorite is Danny Schmidt, a singer songwriter rom TX/VA: https://archive.org/details/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac https://archive.org/details/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac The 4,700+ other artists: https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator https://archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmet... 24bit flacs: https://archive.org/search.php?query=%28format%3A%2824Bit%20FLAC%29%20OR%20%28flac24%29%20OR%20%2824-bit%29%20OR%2024bit%29%20AND%20collection%3Aetree https://archive.org/search.php?query=%28format%3A%2824Bit%20...
- dundun 13y ago
  Sorry, I should have clarified that comment before posting it. Many bands allow audience taping but I'm not aware of m?any that allow for commercial distribution of those recordings. If Spotify attempted to distribute those recordings against the bands' policies then it would probably piss off the bands. That Danny Schmidt is pretty great stuff. You're right about Spotify's lack of content when it comes to stuff like this-- they have all his studio albums but are kind of weak when it comes to live stuff, they have one album. Archive.org definitely fills in this gap (I use it all the time for Dead shows).
  - dfc 13y ago
    Now I see what you were saying. I think the studio process strips the humanity out of music. I have been working on a feature request / outline of functionality for beets and etree that I need to finally submit to sampsyo. How awesome would this be: $ beet etree --get dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac etree: requesting ogg format etree: fingerprints verified etree: Success: Downloaded Album: 2007-12-13 - The Cactus Cafe $ Archive.org has a somewhat documented API that describes all of the "resources." A lot of the shows even come with cover art for those that are into that. JSON for recording: https://archive.org/metadata/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac https://archive.org/metadata/dannyschmidt2007-12-13.sbd.flac

Wintamute 13y ago

Yeah, the Spotify catalogue isn't exhaustive by any means, but its pretty darn good. I miss some more obscure items from my mp3 collection, especially some techno/dance stuff I enjoyed in my early 20s (I shed a tear for that occasionally) - but overall I feel like the benefits of shedding a 30GB collection of files whose metadata I was obsessed by outweigh the negatives of dumping my personal music collection. If Spotify dies I'll just move onto the next service. If there are a few obscure mp3s you can't live without you can import them into your Spotify client. They'll get auto synced to any mobile devices you have connected and the client installed on too (although not cloud synced to other computers - you'd have to copy them manually). Spotify does a lot of local caching, so once you've listened to a track once it'll likely be cached so it doesn't hammer your collection too badly. Pretty sure I've continued to get good gaming pings while my gf listens to Spotify in the next room :) EDIT: I did not know about the P2P stuff. Huh! Interesting ...