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Carplay seems to be just Apple reinventing the wheel. To be fair, that's basically Apple's business models. Just add some proprietary standards and some softwa

Carplay seems to be just Apple reinventing the wheel. To be fair, that's basically Apple's business models. Just add some proprietary standards and some software patents and you are good to go.

mbel 13y ago
Yeah, I'm absolutely aware of this; it just seems to be so wasteful from engineering point of view.
- gnaffle 13y ago
  Well, if you look at Airplay, they had a technology that worked well for _years_ until the "leading standard" caught up. They do support other standards such as A2DP though.
- furyofantares 13y ago
  A drop in the bucket. Thinking just about code, the amount of redundant code or code that will never ship or will only ship to a few people or will be replaced in 5 years must be enormous
annnnd 13y ago
This comment is a bit dismissive. Can you really claim that for iPod, iPhone and iPad? Sure, every invention is based on work of others, but Apple has still made huge improvements on multiple areas.
- collyw 13y ago
  Marketing and gaining widespread adoption seem to be the areas that Apple excels at. In most cases where something is heralded as "revolutionary" by Apple, it has been done before. Maybe not as well or as polished, but usually it has been done before.
  - interpol_p 13y ago
    It's pretty hard to see the iPhone and iPad as anything other than a revolution. Similar to how Windows was a revolution in desktop computing (whether you liked it or not). "Gaining widespread adoption" was never an area Apple was very good at. They were always good at creating consumer-focused PCs. The initial line of MacBooks and iMacs are good examples of this — minuscule user base compared to Windows, but built to Apple's standards of what a computer should be. Their initial aim for the iPhone was to capture 1% of the market, they hardly expected the success they received.
    - LunaSea 13y ago
      The Ipad definitely wasn't a revolution.
      - collyw 13y ago
        It was marketed as one though. And to be fair it was the first tablet to gain widespread adoption.
      - interpol_p 13y ago
        What is your criteria for "revolution" in the tech industry?
  - annnnd 13y ago
    I agree 100% with the first two sentences - but their strong point is exactly that they finish their products too. It is important to execute projects well (enough) and to add polish too - and Apple excels at that. (to be fair, their UX is far from perfect IMHO... but it is apparently good enough)
  - archagon 13y ago
    Saying that Apple is good at "gaining widespread adoption" is kind of like saying that J. K. Rowling is good at "being read".
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- josteink 13y ago
  This comment is a bit dismissive. Can you really claim that for iPod, iPhone and iPad? MP3 players were already pretty mainstream when the iPod came around and it didn't really add much. And the iPad was merely an iteration on the iPhone. But every rule has an exception. I'll grant that Apple definitely redefined what a smartphone was with the iPhone.
  - SeanLuke 13y ago
    > MP3 players were already pretty mainstream when the iPod came around and it didn't really add much. That's like saying that cell phones with color screens were already pretty mainstream when the iPhone came around and it didn't really add much. I think you have forgotten just how different the iPod was. Let's add the Mac to this party. Do you think that the Mac was just reinventing earlier standards on the market?
    - hahainternet 13y ago
      > That's like saying that cell phones with color screens were already pretty mainstream when the iPhone came around and it didn't really add much. > I think you have forgotten just how different the iPod was. It wasn't very different. Jesus Apple fans talk a lot of shit. The first iPhone couldn't even install apps, stop this ridiculous rose tinted view.
      - SeanLuke 13y ago
        I don't know who this Jesus Apple guy is, but I don't own an iPod, iPhone, or iPad.
  - ceejayoz 13y ago
    > MP3 players were already pretty mainstream when the iPod came around and it didn't really add much. In the world of techies, perhaps, but it hadn't made much of a dent per-iPad in the mainstream consumer market. http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/1695501/ipod-mp3-player-adoption-at-tipping-point http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/1695501/ipod-mp3-player-ad...
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- wizzard 13y ago
  Well... yeah. Remember FairPlay? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay
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Carplay seems to be just Apple reinventing the wheel. To be fair, that's basically Apple's business models. Just add some proprietary standards and some software patents and you are good to go.

mbel 13y ago

Yeah, I'm absolutely aware of this; it just seems to be so wasteful from engineering point of view.

gnaffle 13y ago
Well, if you look at Airplay, they had a technology that worked well for _years_ until the "leading standard" caught up. They do support other standards such as A2DP though.
furyofantares 13y ago
A drop in the bucket. Thinking just about code, the amount of redundant code or code that will never ship or will only ship to a few people or will be replaced in 5 years must be enormous

annnnd 13y ago

This comment is a bit dismissive. Can you really claim that for iPod, iPhone and iPad? Sure, every invention is based on work of others, but Apple has still made huge improvements on multiple areas.

collyw 13y ago
Marketing and gaining widespread adoption seem to be the areas that Apple excels at. In most cases where something is heralded as "revolutionary" by Apple, it has been done before. Maybe not as well or as polished, but usually it has been done before.
- interpol_p 13y ago
  It's pretty hard to see the iPhone and iPad as anything other than a revolution. Similar to how Windows was a revolution in desktop computing (whether you liked it or not). "Gaining widespread adoption" was never an area Apple was very good at. They were always good at creating consumer-focused PCs. The initial line of MacBooks and iMacs are good examples of this — minuscule user base compared to Windows, but built to Apple's standards of what a computer should be. Their initial aim for the iPhone was to capture 1% of the market, they hardly expected the success they received.
  - LunaSea 13y ago
    The Ipad definitely wasn't a revolution.
    - collyw 13y ago
      It was marketed as one though. And to be fair it was the first tablet to gain widespread adoption.
    - interpol_p 13y ago
      What is your criteria for "revolution" in the tech industry?
- annnnd 13y ago
  I agree 100% with the first two sentences - but their strong point is exactly that they finish their products too. It is important to execute projects well (enough) and to add polish too - and Apple excels at that. (to be fair, their UX is far from perfect IMHO... but it is apparently good enough)
- archagon 13y ago
  Saying that Apple is good at "gaining widespread adoption" is kind of like saying that J. K. Rowling is good at "being read".
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josteink 13y ago
This comment is a bit dismissive. Can you really claim that for iPod, iPhone and iPad? MP3 players were already pretty mainstream when the iPod came around and it didn't really add much. And the iPad was merely an iteration on the iPhone. But every rule has an exception. I'll grant that Apple definitely redefined what a smartphone was with the iPhone.
- SeanLuke 13y ago
  > MP3 players were already pretty mainstream when the iPod came around and it didn't really add much. That's like saying that cell phones with color screens were already pretty mainstream when the iPhone came around and it didn't really add much. I think you have forgotten just how different the iPod was. Let's add the Mac to this party. Do you think that the Mac was just reinventing earlier standards on the market?
  - hahainternet 13y ago
    > That's like saying that cell phones with color screens were already pretty mainstream when the iPhone came around and it didn't really add much. > I think you have forgotten just how different the iPod was. It wasn't very different. Jesus Apple fans talk a lot of shit. The first iPhone couldn't even install apps, stop this ridiculous rose tinted view.
    - SeanLuke 13y ago
      I don't know who this Jesus Apple guy is, but I don't own an iPod, iPhone, or iPad.
- ceejayoz 13y ago
  > MP3 players were already pretty mainstream when the iPod came around and it didn't really add much. In the world of techies, perhaps, but it hadn't made much of a dent per-iPad in the mainstream consumer market. http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/1695501/ipod-mp3-player-adoption-at-tipping-point http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/1695501/ipod-mp3-player-ad...
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wizzard 13y ago
Well... yeah. Remember FairPlay? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay
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