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> The number 1 rule when interacting with police should be you have no rights. As a former Los Angeles sheriff's deputy who agrees with the majority of sentime

> The number 1 rule when interacting with police should be you have no rights. As a former Los Angeles sheriff's deputy who agrees with the majority of sentiments in this thread, I can confidently say that your broad statement is nonsense. Everyone, not just upper middle class whites, should know and assert their rights in police encounters.

enraged_camel 13y ago
This only works if you assume that every officer is nice, reasonable and believes strongly in upholding their duty to the public. The sad fact of the matter is that a very large number of police officers are simply bullies in uniform. Asserting your rights to them, or acting "uppity," will only get you in trouble.
- kevinskii 13y ago
  A sizeable minority of officers are indeed bullies. But while I can't speak for other police agencies, even the bullies are pretty well reined in by the policies in Los Angeles. I can elaborate if you like.
  - enraged_camel 13y ago
    If by "pretty well reined in" you mean "given 30-day paid vacations when they misbehave" then I suppose you are right. What you won't see (or will see very, very rarely) is a cop losing his job and standing trial for assault if they wrongfully use physical force on a civilian. They can always get away with "well, I thought he was carrying a weapon" or other such flimsy excuses. Combined with the fact that cops always look after their own, it becomes very difficult to successfully and meaningfully persecute a cop for abusing their authority.
quasse 13y ago
Hey! I was just reading about you guys. http://www.lamag.com/features/2014/2/26/downfall/print http://www.lamag.com/features/2014/2/26/downfall/print
yardie 13y ago
Thanks but I'll assert my rights from the safety of my home. No need to go on asserting rights to a cop with an itchy trigger finger. Or go do down the rabbit hole of asserting your rights and be degraded even more for asserting your rights. [1] I'd like to believe the world works the way you think it does, experience has taught me otherwise. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/david-eckert-enema-colonoscopy-drugs-traffic-stop_n_4218320.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/david-eckert-enema-...
cryoshon 13y ago
You've never actually seen people assert their rights when talking to police, huh? I think the correct phrase for this situation is, "you can beat the charge, but you can't beat the ride." Police get all ornery when there's any kind of perceived challenge to their authority.
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enraged_camel 13y ago

This only works if you assume that every officer is nice, reasonable and believes strongly in upholding their duty to the public. The sad fact of the matter is that a very large number of police officers are simply bullies in uniform. Asserting your rights to them, or acting "uppity," will only get you in trouble.

kevinskii 13y ago
A sizeable minority of officers are indeed bullies. But while I can't speak for other police agencies, even the bullies are pretty well reined in by the policies in Los Angeles. I can elaborate if you like.
- enraged_camel 13y ago
  If by "pretty well reined in" you mean "given 30-day paid vacations when they misbehave" then I suppose you are right. What you won't see (or will see very, very rarely) is a cop losing his job and standing trial for assault if they wrongfully use physical force on a civilian. They can always get away with "well, I thought he was carrying a weapon" or other such flimsy excuses. Combined with the fact that cops always look after their own, it becomes very difficult to successfully and meaningfully persecute a cop for abusing their authority.

quasse 13y ago

Hey! I was just reading about you guys. http://www.lamag.com/features/2014/2/26/downfall/print http://www.lamag.com/features/2014/2/26/downfall/print

yardie 13y ago

Thanks but I'll assert my rights from the safety of my home. No need to go on asserting rights to a cop with an itchy trigger finger. Or go do down the rabbit hole of asserting your rights and be degraded even more for asserting your rights. [1] I'd like to believe the world works the way you think it does, experience has taught me otherwise. [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/david-eckert-enema-colonoscopy-drugs-traffic-stop_n_4218320.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/david-eckert-enema-...

cryoshon 13y ago

You've never actually seen people assert their rights when talking to police, huh? I think the correct phrase for this situation is, "you can beat the charge, but you can't beat the ride." Police get all ornery when there's any kind of perceived challenge to their authority.

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