interesting list, thanks for the info. someone made a portal on debian though that's why i mentioned it. boot2docker is actually a tinycorelinux, with a 24 mb b

interesting list, thanks for the info. someone made a portal on debian though that's why i mentioned it. boot2docker is actually a tinycorelinux, with a 24 mb base system image. I gave up on Jitsi fairly quickly(this from a person that wrote actually hacked together a proof of concept skypekit plugin for pidgin). It's slow, it randomly locks up for no apparent reason, and well as you said, it's java. So I went back to pidgin. You're absolutely right about pidgin and it's technical debt though. The only way it can be repaid is by a complete rewrite. I'm still holding my breath for stable gui bindings, and a 1.0 rust release. what you're saying about vm's and containers about security is true, yes. But it's not about security. It's about leaking information, and comfort. The tor browser bundle is all about comfort, and being "safe enough". If you're rooted it neither tor browser bundle, nor tor chat bundle will help you. The reason I brought this up is because i think in theory it should be possible to make a bundle that allows you to run desktop apps inside of that vm/container setup with a fully configured pf tables setup so that particular instances connection will fully go through the parents tor node Pond looks interesting, but i'm still a little of split opinion whether things that later target end user desktop application should ultimately be written in go.