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Data please? I guess the crux of the issue lies in what aggressiveness is defined as. I just found it a particularly jarring statement to just state without an

Data please? I guess the crux of the issue lies in what aggressiveness is defined as. I just found it a particularly jarring statement to just state without any substantiation. I would never in a million years categorize myself as aggressive and I'm pretty sure that the majority of my male friends wouldn't either. On the basis of that small sample set, I feel the quote requires further explanation. As it stands, on it's own, to me it comes across as rather perfunctory.

icebraining 13y ago
Data on what? On the fact that more boys than girls play team sports? On the fact that aggressiveness is a skill in team sports such as American Football? I think the issue is that you're taking "aggressive" as violent or harmful, when in popular usage it often means simply competitive, assertive and/or ambitious, which is the more sensible interpretation in this case, considering the context (nobody would say that being outright violent is helpful as a startup founder!)
- kartikkumar 13y ago
  Data on the fact that boys are encouraged more than girls to take part in competitive activities (on the whole, so not in reference specifically to soccer and american football), or better yet, trained in some way (sports or non-sports) to be more aggressive in their pursuits. As an example, a female friend of mine was a gymnast growing up and she was most definitely in an "aggressive", competitive environment. This again is simply an example from my personal sphere which leads me to pose the question as to how such a sweeping statement can be made about the fact that girls are not trained to be aggressive in the sense of competitive, ambitious etc. The limited data set that I am exposed to based on my personal connections indicates no "obvious" bias that you seem to imply exists as a matter of fact. For clarification, I am not definitely not taking aggressive to mean violent/harmful. We can definitely agree on the fact that that is not a helpful character trait as a founder, so I don't question that this is what the quote is referencing.

icebraining 13y ago

Data on what? On the fact that more boys than girls play team sports? On the fact that aggressiveness is a skill in team sports such as American Football? I think the issue is that you're taking "aggressive" as violent or harmful, when in popular usage it often means simply competitive, assertive and/or ambitious, which is the more sensible interpretation in this case, considering the context (nobody would say that being outright violent is helpful as a startup founder!)

kartikkumar 13y ago
Data on the fact that boys are encouraged more than girls to take part in competitive activities (on the whole, so not in reference specifically to soccer and american football), or better yet, trained in some way (sports or non-sports) to be more aggressive in their pursuits. As an example, a female friend of mine was a gymnast growing up and she was most definitely in an "aggressive", competitive environment. This again is simply an example from my personal sphere which leads me to pose the question as to how such a sweeping statement can be made about the fact that girls are not trained to be aggressive in the sense of competitive, ambitious etc. The limited data set that I am exposed to based on my personal connections indicates no "obvious" bias that you seem to imply exists as a matter of fact. For clarification, I am not definitely not taking aggressive to mean violent/harmful. We can definitely agree on the fact that that is not a helpful character trait as a founder, so I don't question that this is what the quote is referencing.