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This reads like black propaganda. If you're politically active in any meaningful way, it's smart to realize that you're probably under surveillance. It's not

This reads like black propaganda. If you're politically active in any meaningful way, it's smart to realize that you're probably under surveillance. It's not smart to start accusing people who 'Display banners with too many words that are confusing' of being saboteurs.

cinquemb 13y ago
John Young has been at this for years, and has drawn flak from all governments from the information that he has been posting to his site, so I wouldn't call it black propaganda (nor take everything presented here as an absolute guide), but I pretty much agree with everything else you said. His self proclaimed "amateur"[0] ways seems to me to be quite effective especially when sensitive information does get posted (which are cached,copied elsewhere, and removes the motive elements that are with other organizations/people that do similar things) before he gets the take-down requests. Though I have to admit, some of the things that have (not) happened to him compared to others like him make me wonder… [0]: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html
- fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
  That article is from 2010, but it is interesting that his doors hadn't even at that point been kicked down in a no-knock raid or three. It has happened to gov't critics for less.
flatdeviant 13y ago
Definitely black propaganda. None of this comes from GCHQ. The original for the first part of the document is on DailyPaul [0], published in 2008 (before the alleged Cryptome 'leak' in 2012. Reddit user /u/itsnotlupus found more sources for the rest of the document. [1] [0]: http://www.dailypaul.com/60831/techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control-of-a-internet-forum http://www.dailypaul.com/60831/techniques-for-dilution-misdi... [1]: https://pay.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/wzg2i/i_think_ive_fond_out_where_rconspiracy_are/c5ibjz6 https://pay.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/wzg2i/i_think...
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cinquemb 13y ago

John Young has been at this for years, and has drawn flak from all governments from the information that he has been posting to his site, so I wouldn't call it black propaganda (nor take everything presented here as an absolute guide), but I pretty much agree with everything else you said. His self proclaimed "amateur"[0] ways seems to me to be quite effective especially when sensitive information does get posted (which are cached,copied elsewhere, and removes the motive elements that are with other organizations/people that do similar things) before he gets the take-down requests. Though I have to admit, some of the things that have (not) happened to him compared to others like him make me wonder… [0]: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html

fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
That article is from 2010, but it is interesting that his doors hadn't even at that point been kicked down in a no-knock raid or three. It has happened to gov't critics for less.

flatdeviant 13y ago

Definitely black propaganda. None of this comes from GCHQ. The original for the first part of the document is on DailyPaul [0], published in 2008 (before the alleged Cryptome 'leak' in 2012. Reddit user /u/itsnotlupus found more sources for the rest of the document. [1] [0]: http://www.dailypaul.com/60831/techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control-of-a-internet-forum http://www.dailypaul.com/60831/techniques-for-dilution-misdi... [1]: https://pay.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/wzg2i/i_think_ive_fond_out_where_rconspiracy_are/c5ibjz6 https://pay.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/wzg2i/i_think...

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