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It's not about your house. This law concerns farms only.

JoeAltmaier 13y ago
A farm is Somebody's house. I live on one for instance. While we don't torture animals, keep your cameras out of my space anyway thank you.
- boomlinde 13y ago
  Way to miss my point, which is that this law concerns farms specifically and not homes or workplaces in general. I assume that you deliberately misinterpreted me, so what point are you trying to make?
  - JoeAltmaier 13y ago
    That 'your house' sounded like belittling the parent post. Just sticking up for farm residents. Clearer?
    - boomlinde 13y ago
      I didn't mean to belittle the parent. "My house" was his example. His argument obviously wasn't that he is living at a farm specifically, but that private property should be protected in general, which i whole-heartedly agree with, but doesn't really support his stance on privacy laws that concern farms only.
- tremendo 13y ago
  > A farm is Somebody's house. and a food-production facility too? subject to USDA inspections and a whole set of regulations, being that what comes out of it has direct impact on public health? Certainly there should be provisions to protect the privacy of the people living there, as there should be ways to ensure that also the public good is served and protected.
- nknighthb 13y ago
  For someone who doesn't torture animals, you're awfully worried about somebody seeing how you treat them. Your farm is not a house, it is a farm. A house that might happen to sit on the same land parcel is of absolutely no interest to anyone. Your private life simply is not that interesting. Your commercial operations, which occur outside the house, are an entirely different matter.
  - JoeAltmaier 13y ago
    Yeah the old "If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" argument. Used by everybody since the SS. And now the NSA.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      If you're worried about farm operations being recorded, you really must be hiding something. There is no privacy interest here, it's a commercial workplace subject to regulation and inspection, and this is one of the reasons. If you're doing it right, you should welcome the scrutiny as a competitive advantage. Instead, you're so deathly afraid of it that you think you need to apply something even stronger than the extraordinary privacy protections afforded to homes to your place of employment by criminally punishing your employees for gathering evidence of your wrongdoing. That is an insane leap unknown to the American legal tradition. You simply do not have a legitimate interest in preventing lawfully-present individuals from reporting your illegal activities.

A farm is Somebody's house. I live on one for instance. While we don't torture animals, keep your cameras out of my space anyway thank you.

boomlinde 13y ago
Way to miss my point, which is that this law concerns farms specifically and not homes or workplaces in general. I assume that you deliberately misinterpreted me, so what point are you trying to make?
- JoeAltmaier 13y ago
  That 'your house' sounded like belittling the parent post. Just sticking up for farm residents. Clearer?
  - boomlinde 13y ago
    I didn't mean to belittle the parent. "My house" was his example. His argument obviously wasn't that he is living at a farm specifically, but that private property should be protected in general, which i whole-heartedly agree with, but doesn't really support his stance on privacy laws that concern farms only.
tremendo 13y ago
> A farm is Somebody's house. and a food-production facility too? subject to USDA inspections and a whole set of regulations, being that what comes out of it has direct impact on public health? Certainly there should be provisions to protect the privacy of the people living there, as there should be ways to ensure that also the public good is served and protected.
nknighthb 13y ago
For someone who doesn't torture animals, you're awfully worried about somebody seeing how you treat them. Your farm is not a house, it is a farm. A house that might happen to sit on the same land parcel is of absolutely no interest to anyone. Your private life simply is not that interesting. Your commercial operations, which occur outside the house, are an entirely different matter.
- JoeAltmaier 13y ago
  Yeah the old "If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" argument. Used by everybody since the SS. And now the NSA.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    If you're worried about farm operations being recorded, you really must be hiding something. There is no privacy interest here, it's a commercial workplace subject to regulation and inspection, and this is one of the reasons. If you're doing it right, you should welcome the scrutiny as a competitive advantage. Instead, you're so deathly afraid of it that you think you need to apply something even stronger than the extraordinary privacy protections afforded to homes to your place of employment by criminally punishing your employees for gathering evidence of your wrongdoing. That is an insane leap unknown to the American legal tradition. You simply do not have a legitimate interest in preventing lawfully-present individuals from reporting your illegal activities.